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ladies and gentlemen we're live not so

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only two minutes late this week that's

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uh everybody goodie good evening welcome

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to another episode of den of lore I do

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not have a uh motivational

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uh Speech this week uh although I did

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want to make some sort of an

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announcement I'm going to be moving and

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I'm in the process of

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renovating the house so in the next

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couple of weeks possibly the next month

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or so I'll be doing the show for my

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laptop as the new studio that I just

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built is going to be disassembled within

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the next couple of days uh so there may

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be a slightly difference background

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RV roll

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uh if you will

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um but I'm gonna do my best and and you

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know we're just going to keep rolling I

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just may be doing it for my laptop from

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my kitchen table

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so you know here you go but uh

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on today's program uh welcome back to

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the show and almost actually a year

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uh or not yeah the last time we had you

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on was episode was it one 19 it was it

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four or five years ago basically yeah

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yeah and uh welcoming John Cadman uh

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back onto the show and so John is as is

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uh tradition I will be giving you your

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intro as written by chat GPT hopefully

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it's a little more accurate this time uh

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introducing her guest on today's show

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John Cadman a good longtime friend of

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the show John is an engineer an inventor

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who has dedicated his career to

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unlocking the mysteries of the Great

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Pyramid of Giza his groundbreaking work

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has led to a deeper understanding of the

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pyramid's inner workings and how it was

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constructed John's research focuses on

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the Subterranean section of the Great

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Pyramid which he believes is the key to

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unlocking its Secrets he has built the

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first and only working model of this

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section which demonstrates that there

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was a water machine under the pyramid

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that produced the Sonic Force to drive

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it John's work builds upon the visions

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of other great minds including Edward

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Chris Dunn Stephen Stephen Miller who's

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also been on the show uh in ages past

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and Joe Parr whom I don't not believe

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have had the opportunity to meet he's

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passed since oh well man

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his model integrates these different

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perspectives into a cohesive whole

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showing how they all fit together to

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form a complete picture of the pyramid's

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construction and function through his

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research John has raised many questions

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as he has answered but one thing is

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clear his work has pushed the boundaries

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of what we know about the Great Pyramid

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and opened up new avenues for

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exploration and Discovery join us today

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as we delve into John's fascinating

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research and learn more about the

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mysteries of the Great Pyramid

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John welcome back into the den of lore

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for your honor did I lose it oh

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I cracked open my bottle of Macallan 12

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so cheers to you sir

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he's kind of dram goth

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a white glass a dram

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okay right I I have a bottle of Scotch

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but I'm I'm the brother Mike that that

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helps where I can

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and uh I have a nice uh dram glass like

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you have well thank you very much that

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that's always good to hear how have you

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been you you weren't on the last two

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times but I have been following it was

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in the background I I do this

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down I do all that the stuff the dying

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changes and things in the background so

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um I'm The Man Behind the camera you can

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always just say I'm the good-looking one

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well gentlemen I I gotta say it's back

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to John well you can both be on it's

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it's totally opportunity this is this is

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like a way more relaxed show then this

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is Chill Zone right now we're fine we're

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happy and okay I for everyone out there

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I did make sure because I know the last

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time you were on and it was amazing

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because you've just gotten it working

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but for like two hours just

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like can we talk about the machine but

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maybe not have the machine running so

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um but it's still it is amazing that it

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is is running and has been running all

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these years and I know that the

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um I'm gonna say perspective the the

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attention has shifted more towards

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how this actually works from that's

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never going to work or you're wrong

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about that uh and I it it's it's awesome

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to see because basically I've been

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watching it being built in pseudo real

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time along with anybody else who follows

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your your Facebook page and it's uh you

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know for from from one computer guy and

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tinkerer to another like that that's

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just absolutely amazing so first off and

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the fact you rope your brother into it

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as well is like we're gonna build some

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stuff and he's like I gotta make sure

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just gonna make sure you don't die

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yeah my brother John broke me into a lot

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of things over since we've been very

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little and it's it's done from like

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Electronics to Motocross to you name it

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uh we've been sort of roped into these

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things I'm trying to get them to the

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Bering Sea and I failed no I I chose the

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military instead I'd rather be shot at

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than uh going out on the berry to see

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where it's just miserable

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oh yeah well you you guys were crabbers

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before I know I know John

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was John

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but so like are we talking like

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Deadliest Catch style Grabber yes yes

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I was cheap on was uh on the first

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season

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of this catch was there and it was

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um with all the camera Crews and cameras

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and so these Skippers were raped [\h__\h]

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yeah because they could get away with

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yeah they're they're serious and

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Norwegian ones are even to the worst as

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far mean

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well you know if if your captain of a

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ship you're you're basically responsible

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for everyone's lives on there and and

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you know the Bering Sea isn't exactly

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the most hospitable environment

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uh for sailing let alone anything else

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well yeah I chose Special Forces instead

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I was good with that and I'm sitting

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here looking I'm just like a graphic

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designer guy like

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well so like okay for anybody who who

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may be new to the show and I know a lot

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of people are like wow Chris you're back

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I'm like yes and they're like well you

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know your old episodes are down like yes

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because we're starting fresh so you like

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help me out here and or help us all out

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here and jogs people's memory or at

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least introduce people to uh you know

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John Cadman and how you got into this

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whole uh Subterranean chamber water pump

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um now the substrate here's kind of how

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it all came to be was back in 1999 there

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stuff that was out and I was born

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trolling through some some alternate

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history books and I came across as one

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of Doomsday by uh Richard noon it's

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called five five two thousand

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and it was actually a really good book

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it's just he he had thrown that that

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five five two thousand lip in it for

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sales

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um but it had to do mainly with the

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champlers and and ancient history and

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and things like the great a lot on the

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Great Pyramid and the pyramids and uh

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covered a lot like Tomkins

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Peter Thompkins books uh about the Great

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Pyramid and secrets

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but in there in his book in Richard

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noon's book he had a small section on a

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author named uh Edward Kunkel

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he was a hydraulic engineer back in the

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but he he had placed a bet about whether

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he could figure out how the Great

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Pyramid was built

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and he had some Edward cuckold had some

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wised that they'd used water locks to

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basically float the blocks up uh you

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know a Causeway to to placement

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where they needed to be so his his he

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had the original water lock Theory and

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then he kind of reverse engineered part

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of this Subterranean chamber

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and then the whole upper pyramid

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assembly

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and some of what he said made sense and

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some of it was you could tell he's wrong

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and he never made a model that actually

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but his book the book was called the

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pharaoh's pump

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he Edward Kunkel did the best he could

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for the resources he had you know he

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didn't have the internet and things like

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that it was it was a it was harder to do

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described two different pumps he

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described one that he just kind of

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glossed over which basically just took

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in the uh Subterranean chamber

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which is a hundred feet below the base

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of the Great Pyramid itself in into the

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he had called it the uh Construction

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so that's what Edward cuckold called it

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and he he didn't have

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he had a lot of missing parts and he

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just kind of guessed about it and he

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really glossed over it in just a few

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sentences about this construction book

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which was

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basically a modified hydraulic ramp

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and hydraulic ram pumps have been around

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forever like 1700s they were invented in

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uh very simple water pump that uses

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part of the flowing water and stopping

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instantaneously to create a shock when

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it's high pressure spikes and salvaging

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the high pressure spy Surah

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let's do check valves okay so it's real

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basic machine those have been around for

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ages and they were used in the like the

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American Midwest for at The Farms and in

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the 1800s and into the 1900s it's pretty

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and in 1999 I moved up to some property

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which had no electricity it had a pond

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that was

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uphill but it was probably about 600

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feet away from where water needed to be

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ungarthing and stuff so you need to move

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water so Necessities the mother of all

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and so I saw this pump it seemed like a

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very

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high efficiency hydraulic ram pump

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utilizing some sort of Vortex to to

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boost the pumping ability that that was

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and uh back in June in 1999 I made what

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he described as the construction pump as

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opposed to the upper pyramid assembly

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and it didn't work

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that puts my months into it much to this

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model and I was I was faming to all the

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friends and family oh this is the best

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thing this would be the best thing ever

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and

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yeah it's kind of a it was a laughing

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stock for a while but I knew he I didn't

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know Uncle had a bunch right

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and so between June of 1999 and

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and December 31st of 1999 the very last

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day of uh the Millennia

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um I I did a bunch of research and it

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actually came to me the solution

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and uh yeah December 31st 1999 in the

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evening of all things last hours of the

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millennium

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and I sketched out and uh changed a

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bunch of different lines around so it

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matched the topic

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Topography of the Giza plateau and all

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the evidence

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and uh

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and built it

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and on April 3rd of 2000 first try the

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thing ran

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like it was I was happy

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yeah

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well and the the unit that you have

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there that's like is that from the like

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from the mountain if I'm not mistaken

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that was actually the first one of the

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first models that you had developed

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is that correct the one that's right

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next to you that's lit up in a very nice

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Eerie blue color

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it's it's

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this is the next generation one oh this

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is going to be one it's almost finished

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and it's going to be uh the first inkjet

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model it has

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27 inkjet ports

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that you can individually put ink into

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with it running with the water running

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in through it and pulsate and the

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pulsing part was really the key

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uh because I couldn't do uh any other

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models before build something that was

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absolutely bulletproof and this this is

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literally Bulletproof the top is an inch

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and a half thick acrylic and so you're

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gonna have like 10 head bolts around it

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uh so it's actually bolted into place

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it's almost done it'll be done within a

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week

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and then

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be able to actually run the model inject

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ink into different ports

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um different colors any file you want

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and film it in slow-mo or

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whatever you want it's in a controlled

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environment it's going to be inside

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temperature and humidity control so it's

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camera friendly uh and the glass doesn't

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steam up fog up like I had that problem

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with other ones now to taking a few

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steps like well first of all it you know

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for for anybody to build this I'm going

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to say like but literally in your

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backyard uh it it's it's a feed in

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itself just from you know from from home

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engineering uh

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and why I should say why do you think

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they built this in the first place like

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did they it it obviously was for a

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purpose and not you know it's like hey

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let's make something that's that's a

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hydraulic ram pump you know without

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without an ending uh like what what do

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you think the the

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I'd say the goal was for the Egyptians

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if this was if like if they built it for

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that purpose

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I I don't think it was made for pumping

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water it it does that really well it's

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extremely efficient it's better than any

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hydraulic ram pump

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built

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by a huge factor and it's also more

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flexible

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it's and and

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I've run

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this is model number four

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so

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but I've put millions of Cycles right

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and it always runs it's the best machine

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I've ever built the most it always runs

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you can't say that with a lot of

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machines

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no no exactly so

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I know there's a designs right

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but I and I've used it to pump water

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it's a great water pump

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but really what it was made for

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is what really what Chris Doug had said

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and he wrote it he wrote in his book the

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Giza flower plant

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which was published back in 1998

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he had a very

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short lip in there about the

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Subterranean chamber and what he said

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was

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that the subterraining chamber housed

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the equipment which sent a vertical

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pulse up into the

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pyramids core towards the to King's

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chamber Queen's chamber

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but it it caused the initial pulses to

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start the Great Pyramid of resonant

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so that was what Chris Dunn had wrote

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and when I first ran this

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and heard it and saw how everything

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was a

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directed The the pulse wave directly

402
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vertical and the aggressiveness of the

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pulse

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um I knew Chris was right immediately

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and I voted

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in a couple days Chris you're right it

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is a pulse it's a pulse generator I I'd

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say it's a giant subwoofer underneath

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the Creator and then later I later that

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year I

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put a better terminology to it which is

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Hydraulics and squatter fluid it's a

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pulse generator so it actually they made

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it to create

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an extreme

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we're talking really extreme pulse that

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shoots directly up into the core of the

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brain pyramid

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straight towards the uh

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uh the Queen's chamber King's chamber

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and the King's chamber itself I think

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it's more for the king's chamber and

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it's

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dream was made of rose quartz Granite

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it's freestanding from the walls and the

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floor and it doesn't well it has like

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some sort of texture or something so

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it it it is made to resonate so

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yeah Brad galleries made to resonate as

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and like you know that falls onto uh you

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know Doug Keenan's work I know that you

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that he you guys have talked multiple

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times we've I've had them on the show

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way way back when multiple times and

435
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it's it's interesting to be able to see

436
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the uh the ideas going back and forth

437
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with you know like okay well it's

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resonating well if ones were resonating

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you know the other pyramids is the

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receiver that you know the ideas about

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being able to image the solar system

442
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that that type you know trying to use it

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for like Astro astronomy uh radio

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astronomy or something similar to that

445
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you know these these ideas are are uh

446
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just I'm gonna say that there to some

447
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people they'll be they would be out

448
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there to others it would be you know

449
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groundbreaking

450
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um you know depending on which side of

451
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the fence you're on I I just think it's

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cool

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one way or another uh now when when

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you're looking at the the pyramid itself

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um

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like you go into work let's say of like

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Robert paval who will say uh you know it

458
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it wasn't necessarily a machine for that

459
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or you know he'll say that um or has

460
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said that there's no way that it could

461
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have held water because of the

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construction it would have leaked like a

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sieve and you know that that's echoed

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through whether you're dealing with

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mainstream archeology or actually I'm

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pretty sure he had mentioned that to me

467
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on on an earlier show back in

468
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2017 I believe so you know is that

469
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something that you have looked at or uh

470
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has been brought your attention to say

471
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like well it couldn't have held water

472
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because you know it's not airtight or

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it's not watertight and it would have

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just been bursting out of the seams all

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over the place uh like how how have you

476
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approached that kind of argument

477
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well with that argument I

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my setup doesn't even put water into the

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upper part of the creek pyramid so

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that's it's

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it it doesn't matter if it leaks or not

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because it's not filling it up

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oh I I think it's mostly for uh you know

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some theories not necessarily with yours

485
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directly but sometimes yeah yeah like

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they'll have it directly within the

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chambers and the chambers will be moving

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water back and forth and you know where

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you're where you're dealing directly

490
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with the Subterranean chamber itself

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yes it's completely different it's see

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that's

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the confusion is is it comes originally

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from Edward conkball

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who's ever conkle have proposed

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initiative construction

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um underneath the Great Pyramid which

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had the South Korean chamber and he

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thought that provided initial water to

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just move the blocks and then this

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second part of this Theory which you've

502
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really expanded upon is most of this

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stuff

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and there's a fellow in Coos Bay Oregon

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who is just plagiarizing chemicals work

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and it's wrong about it all and does

507
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stupid songs

508
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but uh on YouTube but he uh

509
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um

510
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but that they they are saying that the

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pyramid itself

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used a vacuum system by Crea using some

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fire up in the grand Gallery area and

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when you create a fire the fire creates

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a vacuum and it sucks water up and and

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then they figured it did a double

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like suction up to from the Queen's

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chamber up to the king's chamber and

519
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then there was shot out of the

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the shafts that go up and towards the

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top the upper part of the pyramid and

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they figured yeah

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don't don't be mentioning shooting out

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of any shafts here or this is a family

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show

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okay

527
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and it went through this was from conkle

528
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and then dick heads

529
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it it was

530
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the guy accused he uh he he they're

531
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saying it's made for irrigation and I'm

532
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telling you it's not a pump it's not

533
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made for irrigation the water's all down

534
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in the

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uh below the Bedrock it's

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below the Bedrock exactly league and if

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it does leak it doesn't matter even if

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it's porous Limestone it doesn't matter

539
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:50,340
it's it it you'd be saturated water

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saturated with a bit of oozing through

541
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the through the Limestone that's not a

542
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problem

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now how did the water get into

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the parent like the pyramid itself like

545
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obviously it's there there's a

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difference between

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um your model in you know on your

548
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property that you've built which is

549
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specifically

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um uh around a perfect scenario of water

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a water delivery system

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have you taken into account what the

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Nile would have looked like at that

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point uh in terms of its its banks and

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and you know obviously the Nile River

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has shifted uh its course over over the

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00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,539
Millennia

558
00:24:35,149 --> 00:24:32,400
um like how how would they have gotten

559
00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:35,159
the water use the water then for that

560
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,559
use in that chamber at that point is

561
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:39,360
that is like can you explain that

562
00:24:43,909 --> 00:24:40,559
process

563
00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:43,919
yes upstreet Upstream in the Nile

564
00:24:49,370 --> 00:24:47,100
uh it's probably I don't know exactly

565
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:49,380
how many miles but they had they

566
00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:52,559
actually had a dam up there and a

567
00:24:57,529 --> 00:24:55,020
channel system that went to went to the

568
00:25:01,970 --> 00:24:57,539
uh biome Oasis it's what it's called now

569
00:25:04,909 --> 00:25:01,980
to a depression below sea level large

570
00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:04,919
depression but it used to be uh Lake

571
00:25:10,850 --> 00:25:07,500
Morris so they actually had a big lake

572
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:10,860
beside the Lake Erie that was uphill

573
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:14,640
and Upstream from denial it is still

574
00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:17,460
it's obvious on Google Earth and it's in

575
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:20,460
history books but it was Lake Morris

576
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,860
and then there was there's tunnels

577
00:25:26,090 --> 00:25:24,960
absolutely everywhere and all the keys

578
00:25:28,669 --> 00:25:26,100
at plateau

579
00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:28,679
and there used to be a tunnel

580
00:25:34,970 --> 00:25:32,760
they called it a charm or well that was

581
00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:34,980
in front of the basically in front of

582
00:25:39,529 --> 00:25:36,779
the door area

583
00:25:42,049 --> 00:25:39,539
of the Great Pyramid itself and it was

584
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,059
uh described by

585
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:44,640
let's see Petra was that other guy

586
00:25:52,190 --> 00:25:48,960
uh it was it was documented and since

587
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:52,200
the target but it went down 42 feet

588
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,000
and then it's got filled with sand and

589
00:25:59,149 --> 00:25:57,120
then somehow it got

590
00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:59,159
it loud but

591
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,679
one thing so it was just a gravity feed

592
00:26:07,310 --> 00:26:04,320
from the lake Morris down a tunnel

593
00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:07,320
systems which is everywhere around there

594
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:11,220
and and it just gravity fed to the moat

595
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:14,000
area around the great room itself

596
00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:18,240
all the pyramids had uh Walden's welding

597
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,340
photos all of them didn't and that's not

598
00:26:24,830 --> 00:26:22,799
even controversial like a mode system

599
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:24,840
and it overflow

600
00:26:30,350 --> 00:26:28,080
now like the the Subterranean chamber uh

601
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:30,360
seems to have been quarried

602
00:26:35,149 --> 00:26:33,120
uh around the start of the construction

603
00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:35,159
of the pyramid or possibly even well

604
00:26:39,529 --> 00:26:37,980
before that is it possible that they

605
00:26:41,930 --> 00:26:39,539
could have like been using something

606
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:41,940
very similar to this prior to the

607
00:26:46,250 --> 00:26:44,400
construction or you know is there

608
00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:46,260
evidence that you know this is something

609
00:26:50,450 --> 00:26:48,120
that was recent or they made

610
00:26:54,289 --> 00:26:50,460
modifications to it

611
00:26:56,750 --> 00:26:54,299
it was it does appear that it was

612
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:56,760
it was from before with the pyramid

613
00:27:00,409 --> 00:26:58,320
itself the bill

614
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:00,419
uh there was a test

615
00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:03,299
shaft in that general area where they

616
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:05,039
they did a couple different things

617
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:06,260
different

618
00:27:12,169 --> 00:27:09,840
uh Chris Dunn talks about it and he just

619
00:27:15,230 --> 00:27:12,179
said it was like a test

620
00:27:17,210 --> 00:27:15,240
test uh sorry it felt something

621
00:27:19,490 --> 00:27:17,220
different

622
00:27:21,649 --> 00:27:19,500
so it

623
00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:21,659
it was made before the pyramid itself

624
00:27:24,590 --> 00:27:23,820
and it doesn't need the pyramid there at

625
00:27:29,810 --> 00:27:24,600
all

626
00:27:33,289 --> 00:27:29,820
and the whole sub assembly still runs

627
00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:33,299
it's it's just the pyramid itself is

628
00:27:37,730 --> 00:27:36,299
just a a machine that's sitting on top

629
00:27:39,289 --> 00:27:37,740
of it

630
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:39,299
and it probably wouldn't make much sense

631
00:27:43,549 --> 00:27:40,559
to do that it's like you know if you're

632
00:27:45,470 --> 00:27:43,559
blasting your tunes with the you know

633
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,480
your your back door open

634
00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:48,000
all all the bases going out and it's

635
00:27:51,289 --> 00:27:49,260
like you'll annoy the neighbors but

636
00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:51,299
you're not going to do much good with it

637
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:52,620
yeah

638
00:27:58,970 --> 00:27:54,480
now you when when you started building

639
00:28:00,529 --> 00:27:58,980
this like it's obviously it's very

640
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:00,539
difficult for you to be able to match

641
00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:04,320
your measurements for your model uh you

642
00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:10,789
tool turn for Tool turn against the the

643
00:28:16,970 --> 00:28:13,559
real Subterranean chamber like how did

644
00:28:20,510 --> 00:28:16,980
you model the uh the measurements

645
00:28:23,149 --> 00:28:20,520
the measurements I I came to use a scale

646
00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:23,159
of a quarter inch to the foot it worked

647
00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,260
out really well for the shafts I guess

648
00:28:31,010 --> 00:28:27,600
they're four it's basically four play

649
00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:31,020
three foot and two foot shafts so you go

650
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,740
you know four fours is one inch and

651
00:28:40,669 --> 00:28:36,960
could be able to do Square shots one

652
00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:40,679
inch three quarter inch half inch and uh

653
00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:43,500
so I just use the 1 to 48 scale

654
00:28:49,070 --> 00:28:46,500
it made it well it made this size for

655
00:28:51,970 --> 00:28:49,080
the sub chamber it's uh like 11 inches

656
00:28:59,690 --> 00:28:54,130
which is

657
00:29:02,630 --> 00:28:59,700
27 feet by 46 feet by 13 foot high

658
00:29:04,549 --> 00:29:02,640
so this at this framework you walk

659
00:29:06,409 --> 00:29:04,559
around and walk up on the steps and

660
00:29:08,090 --> 00:29:06,419
stuff it's it's a big round

661
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:08,100
it's the biggest room in the Internet

662
00:29:14,090 --> 00:29:10,620
it's all or under it

663
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:14,100
no to some people they'll say

664
00:29:17,330 --> 00:29:16,080
okay that's cool oh okay I know he's got

665
00:29:20,930 --> 00:29:17,340
a flashlight I thought there was like oh

666
00:29:24,190 --> 00:29:20,940
we've got a light in there okay so he's

667
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:25,970
Somebody's gotta do it it's like we're

668
00:29:29,389 --> 00:29:27,360
gonna turn this machine on and we're

669
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:29,399
gonna Ascend ladies and gentlemen

670
00:29:36,110 --> 00:29:34,669
they're they're all there are always

671
00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:36,120
going to be people

672
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:38,460
um who will Who who are going to

673
00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:41,279
criticize or say that the idea is crazy

674
00:29:44,269 --> 00:29:43,020
um the fact that it's again like the

675
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:44,279
fact that it's working

676
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:47,520
is is a testament in itself you are

677
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,840
going to have individuals who are going

678
00:29:53,210 --> 00:29:50,640
to say that well it's not an exact

679
00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,220
replica or modifications to the

680
00:29:57,409 --> 00:29:55,679
measurements were made based on you know

681
00:30:00,590 --> 00:29:57,419
the needs to actually get it working in

682
00:30:02,870 --> 00:30:00,600
a model versus versus real life uh you

683
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:02,880
now when you're talking about you've

684
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,039
like copied the measurements almost

685
00:30:10,450 --> 00:30:07,440
exactly like are there any differences

686
00:30:13,730 --> 00:30:10,460
from you know like from the original

687
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,740
construction to what you have uh what

688
00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:14,880
you've constructed

689
00:30:19,789 --> 00:30:17,340
yeah I did it I did do a little bit of

690
00:30:23,810 --> 00:30:19,799
modification and

691
00:30:27,529 --> 00:30:23,820
it had to do with the descending passage

692
00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:27,539
I used around inch and a quarter I

693
00:30:33,049 --> 00:30:31,020
instead of making the full thing

694
00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:33,059
um one inch square on the on the

695
00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:36,120
interior I didn't see

696
00:30:42,830 --> 00:30:39,120
I didn't see a big difference in the

697
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:42,840
flow for the two long pipes on

698
00:30:48,409 --> 00:30:46,020
I think all the interior section the

699
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:48,419
square pipes are critical and so I made

700
00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:51,600
all the square shafts

701
00:31:01,090 --> 00:30:56,700
everything as close to Accurate as

702
00:31:03,769 --> 00:31:01,100
possible within it's probably 95 yeah

703
00:31:06,529 --> 00:31:03,779
and how are you accounting for the water

704
00:31:12,169 --> 00:31:09,769
the water flow pressure it's

705
00:31:13,730 --> 00:31:12,179
there's a there's two pressures there's

706
00:31:22,130 --> 00:31:13,740
the

707
00:31:23,389 --> 00:31:22,140
which and it's a

708
00:31:25,730 --> 00:31:23,399
oh

709
00:31:28,370 --> 00:31:25,740
in the in the great room itself it's a

710
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:28,380
hundred feet plus uh 30 foot

711
00:31:34,490 --> 00:31:31,919
uh on this model it's probably seven b

712
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:37,789
uh which is seven feet times

713
00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:44,810
0.28 pounds per foot

714
00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:47,820
so it's not that many much pressure on

715
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:50,580
the model until you actually run it

716
00:31:57,169 --> 00:31:55,679
and running it involves a a valve which

717
00:31:59,690 --> 00:31:57,179
uh stops

718
00:32:03,049 --> 00:31:59,700
instant instantly

719
00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:03,059
water flow causes the develop the shot

720
00:32:08,930 --> 00:32:06,200
and when water closes the bowel

721
00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:08,940
instantaneously since it's basically

722
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:12,960
it's nearly incompressible water's

723
00:32:18,830 --> 00:32:16,799
so it does a water hammer which causes a

724
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:18,840
giant shock wave

725
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,840
like old pipes and old houses and turn

726
00:32:27,169 --> 00:32:24,000
off the faucet somewhere in the pots you

727
00:32:29,690 --> 00:32:27,179
go bang bang bang bang look that's the

728
00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:29,700
same thing it's a water hammer yeah

729
00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:31,799
they'll usually happen with metal pipes

730
00:32:36,529 --> 00:32:34,740
uh like even here up in Canada we

731
00:32:37,250 --> 00:32:36,539
haven't really used metal

732
00:32:39,649 --> 00:32:37,260
um

733
00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:39,659
I think since like the 50s or 60s mostly

734
00:32:45,470 --> 00:32:42,120
it's all it's been PVC since the late

735
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:45,480
70s on so getting the water hammer uh

736
00:32:51,730 --> 00:32:47,940
effect is is a little hard in most

737
00:32:58,010 --> 00:32:55,310
too I don't put in the houses

738
00:33:00,169 --> 00:32:58,020
it's just a little air gap it's a little

739
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,179
copper tube that goes up it has an air

740
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:02,399
gap and it's obviously put it on the

741
00:33:08,029 --> 00:33:05,760
pipes at their point the air air kills

742
00:33:10,010 --> 00:33:08,039
water hammer

743
00:33:12,529 --> 00:33:10,020
oh yeah so major difference in pressure

744
00:33:15,610 --> 00:33:12,539
air is a lot more compressible water as

745
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:18,950
well but on this model even this model

746
00:33:24,289 --> 00:33:22,140
that just by having the the

747
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:24,299
water hammer

748
00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:26,340
and the and the static pressure just

749
00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,500
that if it's not moving

750
00:33:33,950 --> 00:33:30,480
the water pressure in the pipes like

751
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,960
three PSI three pounds of storage it's a

752
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,000
very low

753
00:33:41,389 --> 00:33:38,399
and then when you as soon as you hit the

754
00:33:42,289 --> 00:33:41,399
uh throw the wastegate valve on and it's

755
00:33:45,169 --> 00:33:42,299
it's

756
00:33:47,649 --> 00:33:45,179
doing the water hammer effect

757
00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:47,659
it's no less than

758
00:33:53,570 --> 00:33:52,380
150 psi at the valve but really I'm

759
00:33:55,970 --> 00:33:53,580
thinking it's

760
00:33:59,049 --> 00:33:55,980
when you get into instantaneous or near

761
00:34:03,950 --> 00:33:59,059
instantaneous spikes it's got to be over

762
00:34:06,470 --> 00:34:03,960
450 PSI so you got a A

763
00:34:11,570 --> 00:34:06,480
scaling Factor let's say

764
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:11,580
three versus 450 like 150 Factor

765
00:34:16,010 --> 00:34:13,679
just by doing introducing the water

766
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:16,020
hammer I know it's that much because it

767
00:34:20,409 --> 00:34:18,720
breaks the PVC

768
00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:20,419
uh

769
00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:22,619
connections as I recall you've

770
00:34:26,450 --> 00:34:24,119
discovered that a few times

771
00:34:30,349 --> 00:34:26,460
a few times a few different PVC

772
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:30,359
materials I use schedule 80 I use

773
00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:32,760
um the white regular PVC and I've used

774
00:34:37,070 --> 00:34:34,679
like the condia which is a little more

775
00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:37,080
flexible and I broke them all

776
00:34:42,010 --> 00:34:40,740
and so I I know it's a good Spike

777
00:34:44,990 --> 00:34:42,020
pressure

778
00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:45,000
with a with the gauge with gauges I've

779
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:47,820
measured 100 I've seen 150 psi at the

780
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:50,159
race day and then the pump if you use it

781
00:34:53,690 --> 00:34:51,839
as a pump itself

782
00:34:58,609 --> 00:34:53,700
it'll pop out

783
00:35:01,730 --> 00:34:58,619
uh put out 45 PSI from three so it's a

784
00:35:04,270 --> 00:35:01,740
factor of 15. just from the head

785
00:35:08,810 --> 00:35:04,280
pressure just from the ground Gravity

786
00:35:11,690 --> 00:35:08,820
the water above the sub chamber itself I

787
00:35:13,730 --> 00:35:11,700
find it interesting that you know for

788
00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:13,740
for

789
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,160
the Egyptians to have constructed a uh

790
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:19,200
you know this this type of

791
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:22,079
like basically a partless machine

792
00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:24,180
and it's it's the only one of its kind

793
00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:26,040
that's been seen at least that I can

794
00:35:29,390 --> 00:35:28,140
recall off the top my head like while

795
00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:29,400
you were doing your research and

796
00:35:34,490 --> 00:35:31,320
building this might have you run across

797
00:35:36,890 --> 00:35:34,500
any other potential uh like potential

798
00:35:38,810 --> 00:35:36,900
either copies or other instances of this

799
00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:38,820
either in another pyramid or in another

800
00:35:43,490 --> 00:35:41,820
building or even another cave

801
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:43,500
um not necessarily to this design but

802
00:35:46,609 --> 00:35:45,720
you know with with a similar idea or

803
00:35:50,510 --> 00:35:46,619
function

804
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:50,520
no no it's it's Unique that I

805
00:35:55,310 --> 00:35:52,800
I've never seen this anywhere

806
00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:55,320
I've never seen even if hydraulic ram

807
00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:58,500
I'll say utilize the the pressure spike

808
00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:02,400
as a as its main function like to cause

809
00:37:11,210 --> 00:36:03,420
a

810
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:11,220
well I don't he doesn't deserve it well

811
00:37:14,810 --> 00:37:13,200
that that too he has been on the show

812
00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:14,820
before

813
00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:16,680
and then you know

814
00:37:19,849 --> 00:37:18,420
it's he let's just say it's after that

815
00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:19,859
he was uh hours and hours of

816
00:37:23,810 --> 00:37:20,720
entertainment

817
00:37:25,550 --> 00:37:23,820
[Laughter]

818
00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:25,560
he'll come in and talk and it's like

819
00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:27,540
well would have gotten into an argument

820
00:37:31,329 --> 00:37:28,980
so I'm like I wonder what John Cadman

821
00:37:34,270 --> 00:37:31,339
has to say about this

822
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:34,280
tank John she'll come in I'm like oh

823
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:36,900
he's not it's not a friend of mine no I

824
00:37:40,190 --> 00:37:38,160
know that well that was that was the

825
00:37:41,870 --> 00:37:40,200
intent was just to be able to uh I'm

826
00:37:43,069 --> 00:37:41,880
gonna say uh annoy and aggravate him

827
00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:43,079
it's like if he's gonna troll I'm going

828
00:37:47,950 --> 00:37:45,000
to troll that back just as hard and I

829
00:37:52,010 --> 00:37:50,150
obviously you know I'm at the age now

830
00:37:55,970 --> 00:37:52,020
where I can't I don't have the time or

831
00:37:58,609 --> 00:37:55,980
the energy or or the uh uh awake hours

832
00:38:00,829 --> 00:37:58,619
or I can put into that anymore but it's

833
00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:00,839
good to reminisce on the good old days

834
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:03,839
um uh now when you're looking at at this

835
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:04,800
machine

836
00:38:08,990 --> 00:38:07,680
and obviously you know not accounting

837
00:38:10,849 --> 00:38:09,000
for

838
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:10,859
um you know any potential

839
00:38:14,930 --> 00:38:12,720
but lessons that may have been learned

840
00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:14,940
from certain individuals who should not

841
00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:17,160
be named failures uh like what other

842
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:19,380
things that have you discovered with

843
00:38:25,490 --> 00:38:23,040
during the last 23 years now of

844
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:25,500
developing this that you know kind of

845
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,880
surprised you

846
00:38:30,170 --> 00:38:28,560
there's a bunch of things that really

847
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:30,180
surprised me

848
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,160
um the pressures blew me away uh uh just

849
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:36,960
it took so much to actually get a model

850
00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:39,920
so it wouldn't self is strong

851
00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:42,540
just this model itself

852
00:38:47,329 --> 00:38:45,000
small model you know not a lot of head

853
00:38:49,690 --> 00:38:47,339
pressure on it and

854
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:49,700
but if you just do simple calculations

855
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:52,800
just the surface area if you have like

856
00:38:57,530 --> 00:38:55,560
seven inches by 11 inches that's 77

857
00:39:01,490 --> 00:38:57,540
square inches on the surface on the top

858
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:01,500
and and if you run a spike of let's see

859
00:39:08,810 --> 00:39:05,280
on the low side let's say 40 PSI I know

860
00:39:13,910 --> 00:39:08,820
that's very low on this but 40 PSI times

861
00:39:19,849 --> 00:39:16,670
and I'm thinking like in terms of PSI

862
00:39:21,890 --> 00:39:19,859
it's like it's like a it'll it puts out

863
00:39:23,630 --> 00:39:21,900
a ton of pressure upwards from this

864
00:39:26,329 --> 00:39:23,640
small area and that's just from this

865
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,339
model and I find that crazy because like

866
00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:28,320
even like if you think about pressures

867
00:39:31,130 --> 00:39:29,640
most people when they think pressure

868
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,140
they think tire pressure and you know

869
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,880
the average Tire depending on the size

870
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:34,800
the make or the model could be anywhere

871
00:39:41,390 --> 00:39:39,119
from about 28 to you know 35 PSI and if

872
00:39:43,190 --> 00:39:41,400
you put you pop a car tire all you know

873
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:43,200
you just hear that bang and that's

874
00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:44,520
that's a tremendous amount of force and

875
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:45,780
that's just coming that's just air

876
00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:47,700
that's been that's been pressurized in

877
00:39:52,130 --> 00:39:49,740
there if you're talking that that much

878
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:52,140
pressure with water you know if if

879
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:54,839
anything were to go wrong heaven forbid

880
00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:57,060
especially

881
00:40:03,190 --> 00:39:59,520
it breaks things it breaks things yes

882
00:40:05,569 --> 00:40:03,200
well like how many pipes did you go

883
00:40:07,930 --> 00:40:05,579
how many pipes you go through

884
00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:07,940
in in like even just the last year alone

885
00:40:13,490 --> 00:40:10,020
like have you

886
00:40:15,290 --> 00:40:13,500
different types of Fasteners you're like

887
00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:15,300
oh you can't use the screw-ons or you

888
00:40:20,690 --> 00:40:17,220
can't use glue

889
00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:20,700
um yeah I eliminate a lot of things I I

890
00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:23,820
right now I'm just running I use uh the

891
00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:26,700
conduit PVC and I used to have your

892
00:40:32,270 --> 00:40:29,280
stuff so it's a schedule 80 it's glued

893
00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:32,280
together the stuff

894
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:34,680
you know tractors over it it's really

895
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:37,680
durable and then it also doesn't have

896
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,020
any threads and and

897
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,200
I had problems with having uh I I use

898
00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:45,599
steel pipe at one point uh schedule a

899
00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:47,700
steel pipe but then at the unions you've

900
00:40:53,150 --> 00:40:50,460
got a little upward air area where you'd

901
00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:53,160
get air in it and then air kills sniper

902
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,859
water hands see you know that wasn't

903
00:40:59,870 --> 00:40:57,599
really good

904
00:41:02,890 --> 00:40:59,880
so steel wasn't good

905
00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:05,510
and uh

906
00:41:10,130 --> 00:41:08,280
the main thing is just serious overkill

907
00:41:12,550 --> 00:41:10,140
on the builds

908
00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:12,560
if I'm using an inch and a half thick

909
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:15,060
acrylic top

910
00:41:20,030 --> 00:41:17,760
and the things yeah it'll be great for

911
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:20,040
filming you can see through it but it

912
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,520
weighs like 30 pounds just the acrylic

913
00:41:29,569 --> 00:41:26,160
top that goes on this model it's it's

914
00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:29,579
it's gonna have 10 head bolts on it

915
00:41:37,130 --> 00:41:33,480
just so it doesn't flex and break and

916
00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:37,140
but I had I've had I've broken tons

917
00:41:41,390 --> 00:41:40,140
but one concrete model

918
00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:41,400
uh

919
00:41:46,730 --> 00:41:43,560
first the very first light pulse I did

920
00:41:48,829 --> 00:41:46,740
on it it it broke the concrete

921
00:41:50,650 --> 00:41:48,839
and I still have that one kick it around

922
00:41:53,450 --> 00:41:50,660
yeah

923
00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:53,460
it was a light pulse it was the lightest

924
00:41:58,010 --> 00:41:55,740
pulse I could do oh concrete like if

925
00:42:00,890 --> 00:41:58,020
it's not reinforced concrete

926
00:42:02,990 --> 00:42:00,900
it's it's a crap shoot

927
00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:03,000
um like have you considered transparent

928
00:42:11,630 --> 00:42:07,930
nope

929
00:42:20,170 --> 00:42:11,640
for anybody who's under the age of like

930
00:42:26,450 --> 00:42:23,690
but this is what I'm using right now

931
00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:26,460
um it's gonna be epoxy

932
00:42:31,130 --> 00:42:29,220
and uh

933
00:42:33,410 --> 00:42:31,140
but it's it's gonna be so thick I mean

934
00:42:36,829 --> 00:42:33,420
the epoxy is going to be yay thick and

935
00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:36,839
I've got all these uh individual inkjab

936
00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:39,420
tubes uh they're actually eject printer

937
00:42:46,730 --> 00:42:43,440
they come like like a fan

938
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:46,740
they come in uh eight strands wide so

939
00:42:52,310 --> 00:42:48,960
I'll have all the inkjets out through

940
00:42:54,470 --> 00:42:52,320
the molding with real inject ink into it

941
00:42:58,190 --> 00:42:54,480
but it's just really overkill on the

942
00:43:00,410 --> 00:42:58,200
build so that it won't break and that's

943
00:43:02,270 --> 00:43:00,420
that's his old it's a ridiculous

944
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:02,280
subduction at that point for such a

945
00:43:07,069 --> 00:43:05,460
small assembly how are you sourcing the

946
00:43:09,890 --> 00:43:07,079
acrylic like are do you have like a

947
00:43:11,329 --> 00:43:09,900
local acrylic guy who you know like like

948
00:43:12,829 --> 00:43:11,339
hey man I broke through another one can

949
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:12,839
you get me another slab and he's just

950
00:43:17,390 --> 00:43:15,720
like that are you putting somebody's kid

951
00:43:20,569 --> 00:43:17,400
through college with this

952
00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:20,579
I I I I I wanna did the internet and I

953
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,500
was just looking for

954
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:24,960
um I was looking for a lexan but I I

955
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,560
talked to a fellow a young guy down and

956
00:43:33,829 --> 00:43:31,200
I think it was Long Beach California and

957
00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:33,839
but it was like it was a that's their

958
00:43:38,290 --> 00:43:36,900
specialty Plastics industrial Plastics

959
00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:38,300
Incorporated

960
00:43:44,089 --> 00:43:41,400
and so I told him when I was filming

961
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:44,099
I said yeah I needed I needed super

962
00:43:48,349 --> 00:43:45,300
strong

963
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:48,359
and it has to be very clear he's going

964
00:43:53,870 --> 00:43:50,640
to be doing filming through it

965
00:43:56,569 --> 00:43:53,880
and so he actually he hooked me up he

966
00:43:57,530 --> 00:43:56,579
said use this you know I paid him of

967
00:44:01,970 --> 00:43:57,540
course

968
00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:01,980
I think it's like 300 bucks for a piece

969
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:03,960
I think it made it and it's gonna work

970
00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:07,500
and and then and then the epoxy I bought

971
00:44:15,010 --> 00:44:08,520
like

972
00:44:19,190 --> 00:44:17,930
I've got eight gallons for the pork I

973
00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:19,200
just like I'm just gonna get all the

974
00:44:24,589 --> 00:44:20,940
same wine and I got it from the the

975
00:44:27,170 --> 00:44:24,599
epoxy store in Michigan or somewhere and

976
00:44:29,870 --> 00:44:27,180
so they sent me the eight gallons of the

977
00:44:32,329 --> 00:44:29,880
two parts I have enough to do

978
00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:32,339
the the poor

979
00:44:37,970 --> 00:44:35,700
uh plus and but that's not what we used

980
00:44:41,990 --> 00:44:37,980
to make the whole model whole model says

981
00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:42,000
small pores of of the two-part epoxy

982
00:44:47,329 --> 00:44:45,180
they would just do and I had a silicon

983
00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:47,339
mold from

984
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:50,520
that pretty much used to for the form

985
00:45:01,069 --> 00:44:58,010
with with the actual uh like

986
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:01,079
Subterranean chamber part have you run

987
00:45:11,150 --> 00:45:07,790
not once I built it strong enough I just

988
00:45:22,510 --> 00:45:11,160
overkilled bill no problems no problems

989
00:45:28,190 --> 00:45:25,250
they're pretty thick and they just

990
00:45:31,730 --> 00:45:28,200
expanded

991
00:45:34,609 --> 00:45:31,740
oh it needs to be in reinforced concrete

992
00:45:36,770 --> 00:45:34,619
or something so the first one that I

993
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:36,780
actually made were

994
00:45:43,849 --> 00:45:39,359
back in 2000 was

995
00:45:47,089 --> 00:45:43,859
I I put it in in a plastic recycle bins

996
00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:47,099
but containers and poured concrete Rock

997
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:50,040
and rebar and put all sorts of Steel

998
00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:52,859
chunks in there and poured it it's like

999
00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:55,140
I hope it works because this isn't

1000
00:45:59,870 --> 00:45:56,640
everything apart

1001
00:46:00,530 --> 00:45:59,880
and it it never did break

1002
00:46:04,190 --> 00:46:00,540
um

1003
00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:04,200
made some mistakes on it and also I was

1004
00:46:08,390 --> 00:46:06,540
I regretted putting any sort of ferrous

1005
00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:08,400
material in it and so I don't have

1006
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:11,400
Ferris materials in any any uh steel or

1007
00:46:15,230 --> 00:46:12,980
iron

1008
00:46:17,329 --> 00:46:15,240
if it breaks it all of a sudden you've

1009
00:46:18,530 --> 00:46:17,339
got ballistic material shooting up in

1010
00:46:21,950 --> 00:46:18,540
either direction

1011
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:21,960
uh the main the main reason I was

1012
00:46:28,490 --> 00:46:24,720
looking is the pyramid itself seems to

1013
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,500
be some sort of magnetic machine

1014
00:46:32,510 --> 00:46:30,000
um from a whole bunch of people's

1015
00:46:35,329 --> 00:46:32,520
research everybody from

1016
00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:35,339
like the the golods and it's only go on

1017
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:38,579
in Moscow his his giant pyramid

1018
00:46:44,089 --> 00:46:41,280
structure it's 144 foot the one they did

1019
00:46:47,329 --> 00:46:44,099
it all the uh shape experimentation

1020
00:46:50,450 --> 00:46:47,339
outside lost yeah that's brilliant work

1021
00:46:54,910 --> 00:46:50,460
sorry but it has to be it's magnetic

1022
00:46:58,670 --> 00:46:54,920
machine and uh Patrick Flanagan the

1023
00:47:01,010 --> 00:46:58,680
originator of uh it's a pyramid power

1024
00:47:03,170 --> 00:47:01,020
it's got to be aligned to North South

1025
00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:03,180
India it's a magnetic machine it does

1026
00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:04,680
stuff

1027
00:47:08,750 --> 00:47:06,599
and so if you have a magnetic machine

1028
00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:08,760
you'll want to you know steal and

1029
00:47:13,250 --> 00:47:10,859
anywhere to

1030
00:47:15,770 --> 00:47:13,260
do whatever it would do

1031
00:47:18,589 --> 00:47:15,780
I know so I just made sure I've used Don

1032
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:18,599
Ferris materials no like if if you used

1033
00:47:23,089 --> 00:47:21,119
ferrous materials like what it just

1034
00:47:25,910 --> 00:47:23,099
wouldn't work or it just wouldn't have

1035
00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:25,920
the same like the spirit of the machine

1036
00:47:31,730 --> 00:47:29,060
like not spirit I mean metaphorical

1037
00:47:33,170 --> 00:47:31,740
Spirit of the word you know like this

1038
00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:33,180
the spirit of the law versus the word of

1039
00:47:37,490 --> 00:47:34,920
a law like is it is it more of like just

1040
00:47:40,609 --> 00:47:37,500
a tradition thing or is there something

1041
00:47:42,410 --> 00:47:40,619
that isn't wouldn't work or would happen

1042
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:42,420
if it were Ferris

1043
00:47:46,849 --> 00:47:45,599
you know I I just don't know and I just

1044
00:47:49,309 --> 00:47:46,859
tried to

1045
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:49,319
be as consistent with the original

1046
00:47:53,809 --> 00:47:51,839
building if

1047
00:47:56,450 --> 00:47:53,819
so I I just made sure there was no

1048
00:47:58,730 --> 00:47:56,460
Ferris materials you know I used brass

1049
00:48:03,170 --> 00:47:58,740
or copper you can use brass head bolts

1050
00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:03,180
for the bolt the head down so they're

1051
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:06,420
it's it's it's just attention to detail

1052
00:48:12,770 --> 00:48:10,079
so did attention detail on everything in

1053
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,780
the room all the all the fans because

1054
00:48:18,530 --> 00:48:15,119
there's hydraulic fans in there and

1055
00:48:20,630 --> 00:48:18,540
all these weird pieces and

1056
00:48:23,210 --> 00:48:20,640
or where it's fraction within the

1057
00:48:25,010 --> 00:48:23,220
reception itself just attention to the

1058
00:48:28,370 --> 00:48:25,020
detail

1059
00:48:30,349 --> 00:48:28,380
now everyone everyone asks you know what

1060
00:48:33,650 --> 00:48:30,359
are the pyramids but nobody ever asks

1061
00:48:36,609 --> 00:48:33,660
why are the pyramids so I'm going to ask

1062
00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:36,619
at least in terms of

1063
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,020
the driving need to build this

1064
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:42,800
you know I'll do my best Peter Griffin

1065
00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:51,050
what drove you to say you know what damn

1066
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:52,680
it I'm going to build this thing like I

1067
00:48:58,970 --> 00:48:54,720
understand the interest I understand the

1068
00:49:03,589 --> 00:48:58,980
need to say okay well it works but you

1069
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:04,910
it's calling

1070
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:08,720
oh it's a calling that's why

1071
00:49:20,290 --> 00:49:13,920
all my name and it's possessed me

1072
00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:24,470
build the dreams uh

1073
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:27,480
well the original one

1074
00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:32,220
with the as as each build comes along I

1075
00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:36,420
I tend to test more aspects of it

1076
00:49:40,609 --> 00:49:37,140
um

1077
00:49:44,270 --> 00:49:40,619
the first one just showed that it was a

1078
00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:44,280
pop and it was a messy model and it had

1079
00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:47,460
a lot of errors and stuff in it and

1080
00:49:53,210 --> 00:49:49,859
but then the second one it was 16 years

1081
00:49:57,230 --> 00:49:53,220
later and and Chris Dunn was coming and

1082
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:57,240
and I discovered a glacial Boulder

1083
00:50:02,650 --> 00:50:00,240
sitting on the property that was split

1084
00:50:05,089 --> 00:50:02,660
I would be there all right

1085
00:50:08,210 --> 00:50:05,099
if it just had to be the right size to

1086
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:08,220
put a model in it and fill it with

1087
00:50:14,030 --> 00:50:11,040
concrete and put build this hydraulic

1088
00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:14,040
pulse chainer generator in in the middle

1089
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,880
of a of a glacial Boulder that's sitting

1090
00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:19,680
on bedrock

1091
00:50:24,050 --> 00:50:21,660
because it is it was split by the

1092
00:50:25,609 --> 00:50:24,060
glacier when it was here

1093
00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:25,619
and

1094
00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:31,560
it worked brilliantly it worked it still

1095
00:50:37,010 --> 00:50:33,420
works it worked brilliantly it works

1096
00:50:40,490 --> 00:50:37,020
brilliantly and that one had done a

1097
00:50:44,569 --> 00:50:40,500
bunch of setup to be able to do

1098
00:50:48,109 --> 00:50:44,579
um audio recordings directly above the

1099
00:50:51,710 --> 00:50:48,119
sub chamber itself through the concrete

1100
00:50:53,870 --> 00:50:51,720
so I could actually get the record the

1101
00:50:55,490 --> 00:50:53,880
what frequencies this was putting out

1102
00:50:58,849 --> 00:50:55,500
plus the amplitude you know I don't know

1103
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:58,859
is it is it just a little pissy little

1104
00:51:03,170 --> 00:51:00,960
beep you know or is it or is it

1105
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,180
something substantial what's the

1106
00:51:07,790 --> 00:51:05,040
frequency range

1107
00:51:10,910 --> 00:51:07,800
and that was that itself is like you

1108
00:51:12,290 --> 00:51:10,920
know a huge challenge as far as as far

1109
00:51:14,109 --> 00:51:12,300
as

1110
00:51:17,510 --> 00:51:14,119
um I had help

1111
00:51:22,010 --> 00:51:17,520
by Robert botcher who's a sound engineer

1112
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:22,020
down in Monterey and he's he's as

1113
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,960
is as educated and foot about all the

1114
00:51:28,490 --> 00:51:27,359
ancient Egypt stuff as Chris done so it

1115
00:51:29,990 --> 00:51:28,500
says a lot

1116
00:51:32,930 --> 00:51:30,000
done

1117
00:51:34,490 --> 00:51:32,940
knows more than anybody

1118
00:51:36,589 --> 00:51:34,500
that I know of

1119
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:36,599
and Watchers the same

1120
00:51:43,010 --> 00:51:39,359
well he

1121
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:43,020
I I should just to say so he he helped

1122
00:51:47,750 --> 00:51:45,599
me as far as getting the lower

1123
00:51:49,309 --> 00:51:47,760
frequencies because I wanted to record

1124
00:51:53,930 --> 00:51:49,319
down to

1125
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:53,940
well human hearing cuts off at 50 hertz

1126
00:52:00,950 --> 00:51:57,119
uh and so microphones generally just

1127
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,960
naturally drop the range below that for

1128
00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:02,640
the most part unless you get better

1129
00:52:07,130 --> 00:52:04,680
microphone so he told me

1130
00:52:09,890 --> 00:52:07,140
which microphone to get to get down to

1131
00:52:11,569 --> 00:52:09,900
five Hertz so I wanted to get below

1132
00:52:13,490 --> 00:52:11,579
seven Hertz which is the Earth's

1133
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,500
frequency human resonance I want to get

1134
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:15,359
low for human resonance because I want

1135
00:52:20,690 --> 00:52:18,240
to see if if it's in that range and what

1136
00:52:23,089 --> 00:52:20,700
sort of happened to you

1137
00:52:25,730 --> 00:52:23,099
um and I want the full range all the way

1138
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:25,740
up I want accurate recordings of

1139
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:28,800
amplitude without noise and and

1140
00:52:33,049 --> 00:52:31,920
guaranteed accuracy so he hooked me up

1141
00:52:37,970 --> 00:52:33,059
with uh

1142
00:52:39,710 --> 00:52:37,980
uh I think it's a umic microphone uh

1143
00:52:41,930 --> 00:52:39,720
very accurate

1144
00:52:44,569 --> 00:52:41,940
down to five Hertz and then he told me

1145
00:52:46,430 --> 00:52:44,579
how to isolate it to get accurate

1146
00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:46,440
recordings and then he also helped me

1147
00:52:51,950 --> 00:52:49,440
with the program to do the so here's the

1148
00:52:54,170 --> 00:52:51,960
program you use because

1149
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:54,180
it's it's well it's free but it's also

1150
00:52:58,970 --> 00:52:55,920
it goes down to five Hertz and most

1151
00:53:01,790 --> 00:52:58,980
audio or sound uh analysis programs

1152
00:53:06,829 --> 00:53:01,800
don't go down to five Hertz and it does

1153
00:53:13,430 --> 00:53:10,010
and what we found was

1154
00:53:16,849 --> 00:53:13,440
it's it's extremely aggressive in the

1155
00:53:22,970 --> 00:53:19,190
so

1156
00:53:29,150 --> 00:53:26,390
in the okay in the boulder build

1157
00:53:31,010 --> 00:53:29,160
from the boulder

1158
00:53:34,130 --> 00:53:31,020
it's like 15 feet across or something

1159
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:34,140
it's a big bullet yeah yeah yeah you

1160
00:53:42,890 --> 00:53:40,670
and

1161
00:53:45,950 --> 00:53:42,900
the recordings come in

1162
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:45,960
the isolated recordings and recorded it

1163
00:53:54,230 --> 00:53:49,380
running and I'm just using PVC pipe

1164
00:53:55,370 --> 00:53:54,240
uh and and the check valve is not it's

1165
00:53:57,950 --> 00:53:55,380
not

1166
00:54:00,349 --> 00:53:57,960
what would be a Giza Giza would be the

1167
00:54:02,450 --> 00:54:00,359
the the valve itself would be branded

1168
00:54:05,210 --> 00:54:02,460
and it'd be in a Basalt sort of like

1169
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,220
sleeve and be four foot wide and sliding

1170
00:54:10,670 --> 00:54:08,160
and water and I mean the aggression of

1171
00:54:14,690 --> 00:54:10,680
that would be absolutely Monumental it'd

1172
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:14,700
be extremely aggressive Extremely Loud

1173
00:54:20,089 --> 00:54:16,559
um and it worked

1174
00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:20,099
but even with that small I use the

1175
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:22,800
plunger the the sliding plunger with the

1176
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:25,920
O-ring and it's through a plastic pipe

1177
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:28,800
but it's it's you know stabilized at the

1178
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:31,440
end so the pipe doesn't Flex too much

1179
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,480
but even that

1180
00:54:37,849 --> 00:54:36,000
the recordings from just the water and

1181
00:54:38,930 --> 00:54:37,859
the shock wave running up this plastic

1182
00:54:40,970 --> 00:54:38,940
pipe

1183
00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:40,980
and then being reflected

1184
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,040
and an elbow and going up into the

1185
00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:47,040
sub chamber itself and then up through

1186
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:49,380
the concrete it's like being transferred

1187
00:54:53,150 --> 00:54:51,599
from the water through the concrete and

1188
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:53,160
then up to where the microphone is

1189
00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:56,640
that's isolated and freestanding

1190
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:02,510
that was louder

1191
00:55:09,589 --> 00:55:06,079
than taking a sledgehammer and and

1192
00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:09,599
slamming the boulder right next to where

1193
00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:10,980
that microphone was

1194
00:55:16,809 --> 00:55:14,280
so it's it's more aggressive just this

1195
00:55:19,370 --> 00:55:16,819
water ham water Spike going through the

1196
00:55:21,770 --> 00:55:19,380
water pipe and

1197
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,780
collected and going and transferred

1198
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:23,760
through Rock

1199
00:55:27,790 --> 00:55:26,160
it's more aggressive than us you know a

1200
00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:27,800
60 pound

1201
00:55:34,130 --> 00:55:31,260
Mall being slammed against the boulder

1202
00:55:35,630 --> 00:55:34,140
right in the vicinity of where that

1203
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:35,640
microphone is that's that's that's

1204
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:38,880
that's that's it's not subtle it's very

1205
00:55:44,089 --> 00:55:42,720
aggressive if they had this this like

1206
00:55:47,150 --> 00:55:44,099
Giant

1207
00:55:50,270 --> 00:55:47,160
you know granite valve

1208
00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:50,280
yes in the pyramid itself like how did

1209
00:55:55,609 --> 00:55:52,920
they get it in there to us I'm gonna

1210
00:55:57,410 --> 00:55:55,619
like do they excavate put it in and then

1211
00:56:01,190 --> 00:55:57,420
cover back up or do they cut it directly

1212
00:56:03,710 --> 00:56:01,200
out of the the Bedrock it's kind of

1213
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:03,720
the right ideas it's actually in front

1214
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:06,540
down by space and this the Nile used to

1215
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:08,220
be right at this fans it was at the

1216
00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:10,319
pause just in front of there's a Temple

1217
00:56:14,089 --> 00:56:12,300
as far as the Sphinx pause and not just

1218
00:56:17,630 --> 00:56:14,099
be right there so it's only 2 000 feet

1219
00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:17,640
away that's not far but the valve would

1220
00:56:24,349 --> 00:56:21,480
have been closer to where the space is

1221
00:56:26,569 --> 00:56:24,359
a four foot square pie

1222
00:56:29,150 --> 00:56:26,579
and it would have they would have just

1223
00:56:31,250 --> 00:56:29,160
actually the best design from an

1224
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:31,260
engineering static standpoint would just

1225
00:56:45,890 --> 00:56:41,390
just tunnel down you've got Bedrock

1226
00:56:49,370 --> 00:56:45,900
before and after got Bedrock after and

1227
00:56:50,410 --> 00:56:49,380
just put in some like uh some sleeves

1228
00:56:56,089 --> 00:56:50,420
like

1229
00:56:58,490 --> 00:56:56,099
piston Street okay so say you gotta pass

1230
00:57:01,609 --> 00:56:58,500
down you got sleeves you got iron sleeve

1231
00:57:03,710 --> 00:57:01,619
around the Piston sort of where

1232
00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:03,720
well this would just use Granite sleeves

1233
00:57:11,930 --> 00:57:09,000
cut down into the Limestone that rock

1234
00:57:15,230 --> 00:57:11,940
okay and then all they'd have to do is

1235
00:57:17,329 --> 00:57:15,240
put a top down top of it and

1236
00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:17,339
that's some rocks

1237
00:57:24,170 --> 00:57:20,940
they're very smart people and so all all

1238
00:57:25,730 --> 00:57:24,180
the shock wave is actually being and

1239
00:57:28,190 --> 00:57:25,740
you'd have to have valve seat so it's

1240
00:57:30,049 --> 00:57:28,200
like so where you wouldn't want it

1241
00:57:33,049 --> 00:57:30,059
granted against Limestone that'd be

1242
00:57:33,770 --> 00:57:33,059
terrible yeah yeah like yeah limestone's

1243
00:57:37,430 --> 00:57:33,780
gone

1244
00:57:40,130 --> 00:57:37,440
yeah yeah exactly so it it

1245
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:40,140
so you'd have uh you know

1246
00:57:44,450 --> 00:57:43,440
you have Granite Granite that that's

1247
00:57:47,270 --> 00:57:44,460
fine

1248
00:57:49,250 --> 00:57:47,280
um but then you have the whole Limestone

1249
00:57:53,870 --> 00:57:49,260
Bedrock Way Beyond it that's gonna

1250
00:57:57,230 --> 00:57:53,880
handle the shock wave nowhere Terror

1251
00:58:00,829 --> 00:57:57,240
and and if you have to do maintenance

1252
00:58:04,730 --> 00:58:00,839
uh strains the valve or which is just a

1253
00:58:07,069 --> 00:58:04,740
little sliding ground box like kind of

1254
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:07,079
like a sarcophagus

1255
00:58:10,010 --> 00:58:08,880
um you just take the you know pull up

1256
00:58:12,770 --> 00:58:10,020
the top

1257
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:12,780
you know replace the sleeves and the

1258
00:58:18,410 --> 00:58:15,960
base and or the valve seat and drop the

1259
00:58:20,990 --> 00:58:18,420
new assembly in there and you know come

1260
00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:21,000
back up and rock it it's made for

1261
00:58:23,809 --> 00:58:22,380
maintenance

1262
00:58:27,290 --> 00:58:23,819
it'll be really

1263
00:58:30,890 --> 00:58:27,300
like you you've had like Chris Dunn seen

1264
00:58:32,030 --> 00:58:30,900
it you've had uh I'm gonna say the

1265
00:58:35,089 --> 00:58:32,040
entire world we've seen it because you

1266
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:35,099
you have been on uh Ancient Aliens a few

1267
00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:36,000
times

1268
00:58:43,250 --> 00:58:40,740
so so if if you're looking at I'm I'm

1269
00:58:46,609 --> 00:58:43,260
gonna say mainstream arcule in terms of

1270
00:58:49,069 --> 00:58:46,619
egyptologists or archaeologists what is

1271
00:58:50,809 --> 00:58:49,079
their reaction been over the last couple

1272
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:50,819
of years as this has been getting out

1273
00:58:56,809 --> 00:58:53,760
there because I understand for you know

1274
00:58:58,670 --> 00:58:56,819
for some individuals in the the in

1275
00:59:01,309 --> 00:58:58,680
Academia anything if it's if it's on

1276
00:59:03,470 --> 00:59:01,319
Ancient Aliens it's basically considered

1277
00:59:08,750 --> 00:59:03,480
entertainment but you're dealing with

1278
00:59:10,490 --> 00:59:08,760
actual proved built engineering so it's

1279
00:59:12,410 --> 00:59:10,500
not just a supposition this is like hey

1280
00:59:14,569 --> 00:59:12,420
this is a model

1281
00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:14,579
it's working

1282
00:59:20,809 --> 00:59:18,180
you know explain this uh like what what

1283
00:59:22,510 --> 00:59:20,819
has their reaction been to that

1284
00:59:25,309 --> 00:59:22,520
silence

1285
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:25,319
disregard I don't know I don't get

1286
00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:27,599
anything it's it's stink it's really

1287
00:59:31,730 --> 00:59:29,460
strange it's just silence because it's

1288
00:59:35,089 --> 00:59:31,740
been published it's been in been

1289
00:59:36,890 --> 00:59:35,099
publishing uh in uh Dr John desalvo's

1290
00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:36,900
book of the complete pyramid Source book

1291
00:59:41,710 --> 00:59:39,420
I had a chapter in that

1292
00:59:45,289 --> 00:59:41,720
um back in 2003

1293
00:59:48,130 --> 00:59:45,299
and he's he's a mainstream author he was

1294
00:59:58,010 --> 00:59:48,140
a biophysicist uh

1295
01:00:01,670 --> 01:00:00,289
he also has a lot of other books and

1296
01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:01,680
he's the

1297
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:03,960
director of the Great Pyramid of key

1298
01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:06,240
search research Association which I'm

1299
01:00:09,230 --> 01:00:07,980
part of and I think that's what articles

1300
01:00:12,349 --> 01:00:09,240
on there and

1301
01:00:13,970 --> 01:00:12,359
this does Joe Parr and the Russian yeah

1302
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:13,980
totally full uh

1303
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,559
Russian research is all there

1304
01:00:21,289 --> 01:00:18,960
for the shape effects which are

1305
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:21,299
phenomenal

1306
01:00:24,109 --> 01:00:22,559
um

1307
01:00:26,450 --> 01:00:24,119
no I just don't get anything it's really

1308
01:00:29,930 --> 01:00:26,460
strange and that's I've reached out

1309
01:00:31,490 --> 01:00:29,940
here's how strange it is I I the town I

1310
01:00:34,190 --> 01:00:31,500
live in I live in Bellingham Washington

1311
01:00:35,630 --> 01:00:34,200
and it's it's you know a growing Town

1312
01:00:37,309 --> 01:00:35,640
there's always a kind of a college

1313
01:00:40,670 --> 01:00:37,319
Middletown

1314
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:40,680
up by a Canadian border of the Vancouver

1315
01:00:44,569 --> 01:00:42,720
really it's like 20 miles from Vancouver

1316
01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:44,579
to the Border

1317
01:00:50,510 --> 01:00:48,780
uh we're a Canadian suburb okay it's so

1318
01:00:55,309 --> 01:00:50,520
close you can smell the high mortgage

1319
01:00:57,230 --> 01:00:55,319
rates I I see yeah that's they live here

1320
01:01:00,049 --> 01:00:57,240
and they shop here because it's half the

1321
01:01:02,710 --> 01:01:00,059
price for like the Tijuana for for

1322
01:01:05,809 --> 01:01:02,720
Vancouver

1323
01:01:09,170 --> 01:01:05,819
we're cheaper here but it's not anymore

1324
01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:09,180
but it was yeah we were running into the

1325
01:01:15,049 --> 01:01:12,780
same thing uh with uh

1326
01:01:18,770 --> 01:01:15,059
crap I can't even remember it now

1327
01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:18,780
uh you know there there's a

1328
01:01:22,690 --> 01:01:20,700
an American town across the border very

1329
01:01:25,789 --> 01:01:22,700
close like you just head down the 416.

1330
01:01:28,490 --> 01:01:25,799
yeah like people will take their pets

1331
01:01:30,650 --> 01:01:28,500
there because the the uh

1332
01:01:32,109 --> 01:01:30,660
the vet veterinarians aren't anywhere

1333
01:01:35,569 --> 01:01:32,119
near as expensive as they are on Ottawa

1334
01:01:37,490 --> 01:01:35,579
yes I go to the next County down for my

1335
01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:37,500
vet veterinarian because

1336
01:01:41,870 --> 01:01:39,119
because the Canadians come

1337
01:01:44,690 --> 01:01:41,880
it's targeted for the Canadians and it's

1338
01:01:47,690 --> 01:01:44,700
really expensive in this County and I so

1339
01:01:53,150 --> 01:01:47,700
I drive 20 20 miles south to my vet

1340
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,510
oh

1341
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,950
City development Maps

1342
01:02:04,490 --> 01:02:02,270
like we're pretty close to the board

1343
01:02:07,549 --> 01:02:04,500
like where I live

1344
01:02:10,250 --> 01:02:07,559
is about halfway between the city limits

1345
01:02:12,530 --> 01:02:10,260
and ogdenburgh Ogden burn New York so

1346
01:02:14,450 --> 01:02:12,540
it's about halfway between

1347
01:02:15,289 --> 01:02:14,460
um or twice the difference but twice the

1348
01:02:17,750 --> 01:02:15,299
difference

1349
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:17,760
twice the distance

1350
01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:22,799
um which probably would be going by this

1351
01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:25,440
uh search atomism

1352
01:02:31,849 --> 01:02:28,880
measure distance Edmonton

1353
01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:31,859
yeah distance to here

1354
01:02:40,789 --> 01:02:38,170
let's say it's about 50 clicks Maybe 60.

1355
01:02:42,530 --> 01:02:40,799
so we're about like I live about 60

1356
01:02:44,990 --> 01:02:42,540
clicks from the from the American Border

1357
01:02:47,089 --> 01:02:45,000
and okay the amount of people although

1358
01:02:49,490 --> 01:02:47,099
what like you're talking East versus

1359
01:02:52,370 --> 01:02:49,500
West so you know Upstate New York is

1360
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:52,380
much different than than uh uh you know

1361
01:02:55,849 --> 01:02:54,240
Washington State

1362
01:02:57,470 --> 01:02:55,859
um kind of the same thing it's like

1363
01:02:58,730 --> 01:02:57,480
people from Ottawa are nowhere are not

1364
01:03:00,730 --> 01:02:58,740
the same as people from Vancouver

1365
01:03:03,770 --> 01:03:00,740
completely different

1366
01:03:05,690 --> 01:03:03,780
east east and west very different very

1367
01:03:09,410 --> 01:03:05,700
different in Canada especially Canada um

1368
01:03:10,670 --> 01:03:09,420
here too but not as not as distinct I

1369
01:03:14,210 --> 01:03:10,680
mean the states

1370
01:03:23,410 --> 01:03:14,220
uh is it close to Edmonton

1371
01:03:27,770 --> 01:03:26,630
upwards of about 2 000 kilometers 2500

1372
01:03:30,950 --> 01:03:27,780
kilometers

1373
01:03:34,010 --> 01:03:30,960
oh okay wow that's the way yeah it's

1374
01:03:36,230 --> 01:03:34,020
about two uh if I would say between

1375
01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:36,240
where I am to where you are it's about

1376
01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:40,200
three quarters of the way okay so yeah

1377
01:03:43,730 --> 01:03:42,000
again you're also talking about like the

1378
01:03:46,010 --> 01:03:43,740
US and Canada

1379
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:46,020
it's caught that apart I'm also

1380
01:03:50,510 --> 01:03:47,400
realizing like oh it's about 11 o'clock

1381
01:03:52,370 --> 01:03:50,520
here it's nine o'clock

1382
01:03:58,390 --> 01:03:52,380
eight o'clock where you are right now

1383
01:04:01,910 --> 01:04:00,410
it's one of the reasons why I'm doing

1384
01:04:04,609 --> 01:04:01,920
the later shows because we always had

1385
01:04:07,549 --> 01:04:04,619
big you know big audiences out in in

1386
01:04:11,150 --> 01:04:07,559
California and uh you know up the West

1387
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:11,160
Coast go figure so it's like um if I get

1388
01:04:15,650 --> 01:04:13,440
them after dinner time they'll probably

1389
01:04:16,970 --> 01:04:15,660
be a little more appreciative than me

1390
01:04:19,730 --> 01:04:16,980
saying like oh I'm just getting off work

1391
01:04:21,289 --> 01:04:19,740
and then if Laura's on like okay you

1392
01:04:23,210 --> 01:04:21,299
know I I can stand it it's not really

1393
01:04:25,609 --> 01:04:23,220
that big of a problem

1394
01:04:27,849 --> 01:04:25,619
um but like you know if if you're

1395
01:04:30,589 --> 01:04:27,859
dealing with with

1396
01:04:31,910 --> 01:04:30,599
I'm gonna say like this would normally

1397
01:04:33,530 --> 01:04:31,920
be around the time where people are

1398
01:04:34,849 --> 01:04:33,540
starting to sit down for dinner and

1399
01:04:37,730 --> 01:04:34,859
obviously if you're doing your testing

1400
01:04:38,930 --> 01:04:37,740
uh and with the with the machine on or

1401
01:04:40,609 --> 01:04:38,940
if you're doing recordings or you're

1402
01:04:42,950 --> 01:04:40,619
doing a demonstration it's probably not

1403
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:42,960
going to be around this time because you

1404
01:04:45,710 --> 01:04:44,640
don't want to take your neighbors off

1405
01:04:47,329 --> 01:04:45,720
more than you probably already have

1406
01:04:50,030 --> 01:04:47,339
building this thing

1407
01:04:51,710 --> 01:04:50,040
so again I also don't know how how large

1408
01:04:53,450 --> 01:04:51,720
of a plot of land it could be several

1409
01:05:06,190 --> 01:04:53,460
Acres it could be the size of a backyard

1410
01:05:10,730 --> 01:05:08,990
it's more like hail

1411
01:05:12,770 --> 01:05:10,740
um

1412
01:05:13,990 --> 01:05:12,780
and there's I don't know I've got five

1413
01:05:16,910 --> 01:05:14,000
neighbors

1414
01:05:18,890 --> 01:05:16,920
the two of them are relative so it's

1415
01:05:21,230 --> 01:05:18,900
like John there's a bear in the area

1416
01:05:22,670 --> 01:05:21,240
turn the machine on it's like okay we'll

1417
01:05:24,049 --> 01:05:22,680
try and scare it off the you know the

1418
01:05:26,030 --> 01:05:24,059
bear is just there with like glow sticks

1419
01:05:27,950 --> 01:05:26,040
just dancing next to him like well at

1420
01:05:32,089 --> 01:05:27,960
least it's occupied you know I'm sorry

1421
01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:34,549
how

1422
01:05:39,049 --> 01:05:36,960
you've built the machine you've gone

1423
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:39,059
through several iterations the the new

1424
01:05:45,109 --> 01:05:42,480
model is there yes what are you hoping

1425
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:45,119
to scale up like are you looking to

1426
01:05:50,089 --> 01:05:47,220
scale up or do you have plans for this

1427
01:05:53,030 --> 01:05:50,099
have you already marked out your pyramid

1428
01:05:54,770 --> 01:05:53,040
uh foundations have you cleared off a

1429
01:05:57,349 --> 01:05:54,780
plateau near a river that you're ready

1430
01:05:59,930 --> 01:05:57,359
to get work on help me out here and give

1431
01:06:02,210 --> 01:05:59,940
me an idea of what the next step is

1432
01:06:04,430 --> 01:06:02,220
The Next Step the next step is actually

1433
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:04,440
with the inkjet because I really want to

1434
01:06:08,690 --> 01:06:05,599
do some

1435
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:08,700
analysis of okay

1436
01:06:14,510 --> 01:06:11,760
going backwards a little bit I I have

1437
01:06:17,870 --> 01:06:14,520
done the testing uh with the inkjets

1438
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:17,880
back in 2002 and when Steve Miller was

1439
01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:19,200
out here

1440
01:06:25,309 --> 01:06:22,440
and you know digital cameras work very

1441
01:06:27,230 --> 01:06:25,319
good back then and I just had glass and

1442
01:06:31,010 --> 01:06:27,240
couldn't do any pulses because the

1443
01:06:37,130 --> 01:06:33,890
right was able to determine the flows

1444
01:06:41,930 --> 01:06:37,140
and what came out was it does a

1445
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:41,940
beautiful baby Nazi spiral Vortex 3d1

1446
01:06:47,630 --> 01:06:43,680
taboo

1447
01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:47,640
it does the most amazing

1448
01:06:52,250 --> 01:06:50,640
um like almost a tornado type Vortex is

1449
01:06:54,770 --> 01:06:52,260
gorgeous

1450
01:06:56,329 --> 01:06:54,780
and so what and now this is before it's

1451
01:06:58,250 --> 01:06:56,339
pulsing

1452
01:07:04,670 --> 01:06:58,260
and

1453
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:04,680
actually run run it pulsane so yeah

1454
01:07:10,029 --> 01:07:07,200
shock waves going up and back and forth

1455
01:07:14,870 --> 01:07:10,039
through it it also have the water flow

1456
01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:14,880
and I really am interested in

1457
01:07:21,470 --> 01:07:17,039
vortices

1458
01:07:23,270 --> 01:07:21,480
with the extreme pressure or extreme

1459
01:07:26,329 --> 01:07:23,280
pressure uh shock wave that goes through

1460
01:07:28,250 --> 01:07:26,339
this through the middle of the board see

1461
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:28,260
we're starting to look at I'm I'm

1462
01:07:33,049 --> 01:07:30,480
watching a lot of things on uh the epic

1463
01:07:37,970 --> 01:07:33,059
tornadoes documentaries

1464
01:07:40,370 --> 01:07:37,980
this is really almost parallel to let's

1465
01:07:42,049 --> 01:07:40,380
say the board uh the board so you have a

1466
01:07:44,930 --> 01:07:42,059
tornado

1467
01:07:49,130 --> 01:07:44,940
going through the pipe and this one goes

1468
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:49,140
down to the Earth but there's a extreme

1469
01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:52,559
um shock wave or a pressure that's going

1470
01:07:56,089 --> 01:07:54,720
back and forth independent from the flow

1471
01:07:58,250 --> 01:07:56,099
it's completely independent from flow

1472
01:08:01,010 --> 01:07:58,260
water flow the shock wave doesn't even

1473
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:01,020
care about it it's the the velocity and

1474
01:08:06,349 --> 01:08:02,400
everything it's

1475
01:08:08,450 --> 01:08:06,359
so that would be equivalent to say uh

1476
01:08:11,329 --> 01:08:08,460
a lightning strikes

1477
01:08:14,270 --> 01:08:11,339
and tornadoes they're it's completely

1478
01:08:16,430 --> 01:08:14,280
independent but they are related

1479
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:16,440
you know the lightning strike doesn't

1480
01:08:21,470 --> 01:08:18,719
care if it's if they're spinning wind

1481
01:08:23,209 --> 01:08:21,480
and stuff like that or debris it just

1482
01:08:25,309 --> 01:08:23,219
sees a differential in Electric

1483
01:08:27,829 --> 01:08:25,319
electrical differential between in the

1484
01:08:30,650 --> 01:08:27,839
ionosphere down to the ground so this is

1485
01:08:33,110 --> 01:08:30,660
very similar to that and again just a

1486
01:08:35,809 --> 01:08:33,120
shout out to Taps here for the 20 Super

1487
01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:35,819
Chat he says that my friend is back and

1488
01:08:42,169 --> 01:08:38,460
obviously he means uh John because I'm

1489
01:08:45,289 --> 01:08:42,179
everyone's friend so I appreciate that

1490
01:08:46,370 --> 01:08:45,299
uh thank you very much for the support

1491
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,380
um

1492
01:08:50,390 --> 01:08:47,759
now

1493
01:08:52,669 --> 01:08:50,400
have you had it struck by lightning

1494
01:08:56,689 --> 01:08:52,679
while it's running like is this is this

1495
01:08:58,970 --> 01:08:56,699
a worry or concern no no no no that

1496
01:09:01,970 --> 01:08:58,980
there's not a lot we don't have a lot of

1497
01:09:03,950 --> 01:09:01,980
life here it's it's very rare like a few

1498
01:09:10,090 --> 01:09:03,960
times a year it's not like the East

1499
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:14,030
it would Toronto had Lightnings Thunder

1500
01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:15,839
snowstorm

1501
01:09:20,150 --> 01:09:17,460
I heard about that in Connecticut

1502
01:09:21,189 --> 01:09:20,160
because my woman said Connecticut and so

1503
01:09:24,169 --> 01:09:21,199
she said

1504
01:09:25,550 --> 01:09:24,179
this the snow lightning and thunder is

1505
01:09:26,990 --> 01:09:25,560
that what

1506
01:09:29,150 --> 01:09:27,000
the hell are you talking about I don't

1507
01:09:30,829 --> 01:09:29,160
even know what that is it basically it's

1508
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:30,839
just it's a fun like it's a thunderstorm

1509
01:09:35,930 --> 01:09:33,600
lake effect with Lake Ontario usually

1510
01:09:38,450 --> 01:09:35,940
you've got a lot of humid warm air

1511
01:09:40,249 --> 01:09:38,460
um that that kind of permeates

1512
01:09:42,669 --> 01:09:40,259
um the air around the Niagara region and

1513
01:09:45,650 --> 01:09:42,679
Niagara on the Lake Region

1514
01:09:47,090 --> 01:09:45,660
you're right by Danny kerrer

1515
01:09:50,269 --> 01:09:47,100
um no I'm probably about a seven hour

1516
01:09:51,769 --> 01:09:50,279
Drive Northeast I haven't had the chance

1517
01:09:53,990 --> 01:09:51,779
I keep saying like oh man we should like

1518
01:09:56,930 --> 01:09:54,000
hang out and I'm like I haven't been

1519
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:56,940
down to the night yeah no he's been in

1520
01:10:01,130 --> 01:09:59,280
the chat he keeps he keeps messaging and

1521
01:10:03,350 --> 01:10:01,140
I I'll like glance at it because I've

1522
01:10:05,030 --> 01:10:03,360
got the laptop in front of me and then I

1523
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,040
hear it it's something funny and I'm

1524
01:10:09,709 --> 01:10:06,960
like did Danny say that and it's like

1525
01:10:12,130 --> 01:10:09,719
just message redacted I'm like like oh

1526
01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:16,010
this work on uh Tesla pyramids yes he's

1527
01:10:21,709 --> 01:10:18,660
got a lot of really he has fascinating

1528
01:10:25,310 --> 01:10:21,719
words see I don't really understand all

1529
01:10:26,689 --> 01:10:25,320
the the upper pyramid assembly works and

1530
01:10:29,149 --> 01:10:26,699
Theory select because it doesn't really

1531
01:10:31,550 --> 01:10:29,159
get home to me and that's nothing

1532
01:10:34,130 --> 01:10:31,560
against anybody's words

1533
01:10:36,050 --> 01:10:34,140
um I just it's just I don't understand

1534
01:10:38,030 --> 01:10:36,060
it it wasn't the piece of puzzle that

1535
01:10:39,169 --> 01:10:38,040
was given to me I understand the

1536
01:10:41,570 --> 01:10:39,179
subchamber

1537
01:10:42,890 --> 01:10:41,580
that was kind of given to me and so I

1538
01:10:44,810 --> 01:10:42,900
just try to do it

1539
01:10:48,350 --> 01:10:44,820
the subchamber

1540
01:10:52,010 --> 01:10:48,360
as accurately as possible so other

1541
01:10:55,310 --> 01:10:52,020
people can you know confidently base

1542
01:10:58,490 --> 01:10:55,320
their part of the pyramid works

1543
01:10:59,930 --> 01:10:58,500
and incorporate mine as is part of the

1544
01:11:02,270 --> 01:10:59,940
that machine

1545
01:11:03,950 --> 01:11:02,280
so they can they have confidence in my

1546
01:11:07,729 --> 01:11:03,960
work being not

1547
01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:07,739
sketchy no it's reproduced actors well

1548
01:11:11,930 --> 01:11:09,360
it's funny because like Danny's in chat

1549
01:11:13,310 --> 01:11:11,940
I like you know Doug's and chat like

1550
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:13,320
basically whenever I have it on the show

1551
01:11:18,050 --> 01:11:15,679
Danny and Doug come out of the woodwork

1552
01:11:20,689 --> 01:11:18,060
well of course they are like you know

1553
01:11:23,090 --> 01:11:20,699
their their work is is even though they

1554
01:11:25,610 --> 01:11:23,100
they like their work is is

1555
01:11:26,990 --> 01:11:25,620
um let's say it builds on yours as you

1556
01:11:29,570 --> 01:11:27,000
said it goes It goes to the upper parts

1557
01:11:31,490 --> 01:11:29,580
of the pyramid and it it's it's like

1558
01:11:33,649 --> 01:11:31,500
part and parcel with anything kind of

1559
01:11:35,750 --> 01:11:33,659
within the alternative sphere is that

1560
01:11:37,490 --> 01:11:35,760
you'll have some people who their work

1561
01:11:39,410 --> 01:11:37,500
is diametrically opposed you've got

1562
01:11:42,410 --> 01:11:39,420
others where it's like

1563
01:11:46,370 --> 01:11:42,420
this is a little too coincidental where

1564
01:11:48,709 --> 01:11:46,380
it is either built on or it fits well

1565
01:11:50,030 --> 01:11:48,719
and it's rational and it's good to be

1566
01:11:51,470 --> 01:11:50,040
able to see that kind of collaboration

1567
01:11:54,530 --> 01:11:51,480
and you know they're they're fantastic

1568
01:11:56,689 --> 01:11:54,540
guys so uh but yeah like you know

1569
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:56,699
getting us an agar on the lake it's it's

1570
01:11:59,930 --> 01:11:58,560
kind of one of those things where if

1571
01:12:01,490 --> 01:11:59,940
you're ever out east they've got

1572
01:12:03,890 --> 01:12:01,500
fantastic wine I'm not much of a Wine

1573
01:12:06,470 --> 01:12:03,900
Drinker nowadays but it's a good time

1574
01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:06,480
you go on the tour you go visit you know

1575
01:12:11,169 --> 01:12:08,760
a few places you chat up the maitre d at

1576
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:11,179
these wineries they give you extra booze

1577
01:12:16,250 --> 01:12:13,920
you stumble back to the hotel wondering

1578
01:12:18,770 --> 01:12:16,260
what the heck happened it's great

1579
01:12:21,550 --> 01:12:18,780
fantastic times fantastic times my life

1580
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:21,560
would say different she's like oh my God

1581
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,760
it's like Chris why do you have to keep

1582
01:12:30,729 --> 01:12:25,440
saying the word Tannen so many times

1583
01:12:37,330 --> 01:12:34,790
Doug Keenan I mean my god the guy he has

1584
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:37,340
he he did CAD

1585
01:12:43,250 --> 01:12:40,560
uh um layouts for all the keys of

1586
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:43,260
plateau all the pyramids he's has it all

1587
01:12:49,310 --> 01:12:45,840
down to all the details he did 3D

1588
01:12:51,470 --> 01:12:49,320
printing print of model of the Giza

1589
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:51,480
Plateau it has the tiniest little Sphinx

1590
01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:54,480
it's all accurate it's gorgeous and he's

1591
01:13:01,370 --> 01:12:58,320
done he's done the the uh the granite

1592
01:13:04,910 --> 01:13:01,380
blocks for the uh Kings Chambers how do

1593
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:04,920
you printed those these it and his works

1594
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:05,760
on

1595
01:13:13,130 --> 01:13:09,600
now Doug Keenan did Big Sky Map

1596
01:13:17,930 --> 01:13:13,140
and he his work is the

1597
01:13:21,290 --> 01:13:17,940
um basically uh uh radar projection of

1598
01:13:23,689 --> 01:13:21,300
the sky to look for

1599
01:13:26,689 --> 01:13:23,699
um anomalies

1600
01:13:28,130 --> 01:13:26,699
anyways that's kind of the best of like

1601
01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:28,140
um

1602
01:13:34,189 --> 01:13:30,560
comments or anything that might impact

1603
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:34,199
that's my basic understanding and then I

1604
01:13:40,130 --> 01:13:36,480
have to give a shout out to this uh this

1605
01:13:44,030 --> 01:13:40,140
uh uh this one this one fellow George

1606
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:44,040
Zucker who Who had who introduced me to

1607
01:13:49,370 --> 01:13:47,280
a bunch of good guys it's that it's it's

1608
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:49,380
it's Chris George I just throw in there

1609
01:13:53,270 --> 01:13:50,960
it's my middle name

1610
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:53,280
I do it because it sounds cool everyone

1611
01:13:58,070 --> 01:13:54,719
calls me like the amount of times it's

1612
01:14:00,610 --> 01:13:58,080
like is Georgie there I'm like no sorry

1613
01:14:04,910 --> 01:14:00,620
no apologies

1614
01:14:08,050 --> 01:14:04,920
George Howard's work that you you had

1615
01:14:10,910 --> 01:14:08,060
him on your on telephones

1616
01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:10,920
storytellers right the mammoth yes

1617
01:14:21,290 --> 01:14:18,890
Randall Carlson Randall

1618
01:14:24,169 --> 01:14:21,300
okay now

1619
01:14:26,990 --> 01:14:24,179
I didn't know about their works and I

1620
01:14:30,530 --> 01:14:27,000
very much appreciate their works I'm

1621
01:14:33,950 --> 01:14:30,540
very impressed so big shout out

1622
01:14:37,070 --> 01:14:33,960
to dinner Bloor I mean Chrissy

1623
01:14:39,470 --> 01:14:37,080
you've had some really amazing people on

1624
01:14:42,350 --> 01:14:39,480
there and it you exposed me to their

1625
01:14:44,090 --> 01:14:42,360
knowledge knowledge base and they're

1626
01:14:47,570 --> 01:14:44,100
right

1627
01:14:49,010 --> 01:14:47,580
work is like especially when you're

1628
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:49,020
dealing with the younger driest and

1629
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:51,120
stuff like that are different in an

1630
01:14:56,990 --> 01:14:53,400
entire different show just on itself but

1631
01:14:59,630 --> 01:14:57,000
like it yeah you know there was the the

1632
01:15:02,510 --> 01:14:59,640
big thing that kept being said over and

1633
01:15:04,490 --> 01:15:02,520
over again from the opponent's side to

1634
01:15:06,709 --> 01:15:04,500
their point of view of why it wasn't

1635
01:15:10,550 --> 01:15:06,719
where it's like those spiritual

1636
01:15:12,770 --> 01:15:10,560
spherials were were bug poop bug but

1637
01:15:13,850 --> 01:15:12,780
it's like why that's that's the thing

1638
01:15:15,050 --> 01:15:13,860
that's sticking out in my head it's like

1639
01:15:17,930 --> 01:15:15,060
okay so

1640
01:15:19,850 --> 01:15:17,940
the bug poop is everywhere like is it

1641
01:15:21,770 --> 01:15:19,860
you know like these spheroes were found

1642
01:15:23,930 --> 01:15:21,780
at the black matte layer and multiple

1643
01:15:26,870 --> 01:15:23,940
sites on several continents

1644
01:15:28,910 --> 01:15:26,880
and it's not possible that the exact

1645
01:15:30,830 --> 01:15:28,920
same bug was pooping all over the place

1646
01:15:33,229 --> 01:15:30,840
at the exact same time

1647
01:15:35,870 --> 01:15:33,239
when the species may not have existed so

1648
01:15:37,550 --> 01:15:35,880
you know logically

1649
01:15:40,910 --> 01:15:37,560
um probably not

1650
01:15:44,090 --> 01:15:40,920
and it like

1651
01:15:45,649 --> 01:15:44,100
it is heavily supported

1652
01:15:49,010 --> 01:15:45,659
and it's talked about it at least it's

1653
01:15:51,590 --> 01:15:49,020
being accepted from uh you know like

1654
01:15:53,689 --> 01:15:51,600
even with with some mainstream uh

1655
01:15:55,550 --> 01:15:53,699
acceptance uh I'm not going to go into

1656
01:15:57,229 --> 01:15:55,560
the whole Atlantis because that's an

1657
01:15:58,610 --> 01:15:57,239
entirely different right show all

1658
01:15:59,330 --> 01:15:58,620
together

1659
01:16:03,169 --> 01:15:59,340
um

1660
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:05,570
there are touches from depending on

1661
01:16:08,930 --> 01:16:06,719
which school of thought you're from

1662
01:16:11,630 --> 01:16:08,940
whether that knowledge if there was

1663
01:16:14,930 --> 01:16:11,640
Knowledge from a potential hypothetical

1664
01:16:15,709 --> 01:16:14,940
civilization you know is there some type

1665
01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:15,719
of

1666
01:16:20,030 --> 01:16:17,400
knowledge that was carried forward and

1667
01:16:22,430 --> 01:16:20,040
then used into building the Great

1668
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:22,440
Pyramid in a machine like this the fact

1669
01:16:26,510 --> 01:16:25,199
that we haven't seen anything else out

1670
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:26,520
there

1671
01:16:31,070 --> 01:16:28,800
it's it's interesting to say okay well

1672
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:31,080
if this was built where did they get the

1673
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:34,080
idea from why was it done if this was

1674
01:16:37,490 --> 01:16:35,760
done to a plan this is a like a

1675
01:16:38,750 --> 01:16:37,500
multi-millennial plan to build this

1676
01:16:40,610 --> 01:16:38,760
machine to then build these other

1677
01:16:42,649 --> 01:16:40,620
pyramids to then you know if we're going

1678
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:42,659
on with Doug's work to then

1679
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:46,260
use that machine to then you know use it

1680
01:16:50,689 --> 01:16:48,719
for astronomy purposes or for signaling

1681
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,699
purposes or for what have you it's it's

1682
01:16:54,169 --> 01:16:52,560
you know if you look at it from a

1683
01:16:56,810 --> 01:16:54,179
microcosm it's like okay everything fits

1684
01:17:01,370 --> 01:16:56,820
but if you look at it over a

1685
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:01,380
much longer uh time scale it seems to

1686
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:03,360
some people that okay it's not very

1687
01:17:09,530 --> 01:17:06,719
plausible no but is it possible yes it's

1688
01:17:11,330 --> 01:17:09,540
also possible that you know I could get

1689
01:17:13,370 --> 01:17:11,340
hit by a bus tomorrow morning stepping

1690
01:17:16,370 --> 01:17:13,380
out on my road where there are no buses

1691
01:17:19,310 --> 01:17:16,380
but at the same time it's like

1692
01:17:21,410 --> 01:17:19,320
okay where is the evidence to say one

1693
01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:21,420
way or another and it's people can

1694
01:17:26,330 --> 01:17:23,040
produce it

1695
01:17:28,130 --> 01:17:26,340
but you actually have a working machine

1696
01:17:30,890 --> 01:17:28,140
so

1697
01:17:32,750 --> 01:17:30,900
how how like how how is it people can

1698
01:17:35,510 --> 01:17:32,760
ignore it when it's when it's right

1699
01:17:39,169 --> 01:17:35,520
literally right there in front of you

1700
01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:39,179
not sure not sure oh no one thing I was

1701
01:17:43,370 --> 01:17:40,320
gonna say is

1702
01:17:44,990 --> 01:17:43,380
I I actually we have a university in

1703
01:17:47,209 --> 01:17:45,000
this town at Western Washington

1704
01:17:50,030 --> 01:17:47,219
University I I went there for a few

1705
01:17:52,010 --> 01:17:50,040
years and and uh

1706
01:17:54,229 --> 01:17:52,020
I've contacted that I'm comfortable with

1707
01:17:57,550 --> 01:17:54,239
the campus and everything like that is

1708
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:57,560
that right there and and it's probably

1709
01:18:02,870 --> 01:18:00,000
20 minutes away

1710
01:18:05,870 --> 01:18:02,880
from this folder build

1711
01:18:08,510 --> 01:18:05,880
and I've contacted literally went in and

1712
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:08,520
sat in the in in the class and talked to

1713
01:18:12,110 --> 01:18:10,800
the professors of various ancient

1714
01:18:16,010 --> 01:18:12,120
histories

1715
01:18:17,810 --> 01:18:16,020
and told my dad and bite him up and

1716
01:18:19,970 --> 01:18:17,820
and also

1717
01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:19,980
I figured they'd probably got fired on

1718
01:18:23,470 --> 01:18:22,080
it since they're professors and stuff we

1719
01:18:26,149 --> 01:18:23,480
might want to

1720
01:18:29,689 --> 01:18:26,159
see this

1721
01:18:31,729 --> 01:18:29,699
nothing on that and I've also contacted

1722
01:18:34,910 --> 01:18:31,739
the physics department

1723
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:34,920
years ago like zero I mean what about

1724
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:36,480
engineers have you gone to the

1725
01:18:39,950 --> 01:18:38,400
engineering department and said hey man

1726
01:18:42,169 --> 01:18:39,960
come out to the woods I got a rock to

1727
01:18:44,750 --> 01:18:42,179
show you there's the same pyramid though

1728
01:18:45,709 --> 01:18:44,760
it just shuts it down and they just

1729
01:18:51,050 --> 01:18:45,719
won't

1730
01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:51,060
seems like it's going to be really an

1731
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:54,840
embarrassment to them when it eventually

1732
01:18:58,910 --> 01:18:56,480
comes out

1733
01:19:03,950 --> 01:18:58,920
that you know they didn't even do any

1734
01:19:07,790 --> 01:19:03,960
research or even anything to go 20

1735
01:19:10,430 --> 01:19:07,800
minutes away and actually observe and do

1736
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:13,310
ecology things now interesting thing

1737
01:19:16,910 --> 01:19:15,600
this is this is from Danny who said a

1738
01:19:18,770 --> 01:19:16,920
pyramid go

1739
01:19:20,810 --> 01:19:18,780
and he goes and deletes it again so I

1740
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:20,820
actually remember this one

1741
01:19:24,709 --> 01:19:22,320
something along the lines something

1742
01:19:28,430 --> 01:19:24,719
something pyramid go bang

1743
01:19:29,870 --> 01:19:28,440
the pyramid sends out a pulse and the

1744
01:19:31,310 --> 01:19:29,880
other pyramid receives it and it can

1745
01:19:32,450 --> 01:19:31,320
pick up things like let's say an

1746
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,460
asteroid

1747
01:19:39,649 --> 01:19:34,560
okay

1748
01:19:41,870 --> 01:19:39,659
that's cool it's a possibility How would

1749
01:19:45,610 --> 01:19:41,880
like how would they okay so so it's

1750
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:45,620
received what is that reading then

1751
01:19:50,810 --> 01:19:48,000
like you know what is the reading

1752
01:19:53,810 --> 01:19:50,820
displayed on how are they able to to

1753
01:19:56,290 --> 01:19:53,820
take that information and then put it

1754
01:19:58,610 --> 01:19:56,300
into a uh something that can then be

1755
01:20:01,070 --> 01:19:58,620
interpreted by somebody like again for

1756
01:20:03,950 --> 01:20:01,080
for us we use computer screens or people

1757
01:20:05,270 --> 01:20:03,960
who have Braille have the uh you know

1758
01:20:07,310 --> 01:20:05,280
the the Braille readers that they can

1759
01:20:08,870 --> 01:20:07,320
then read with their fingertips

1760
01:20:10,910 --> 01:20:08,880
and I'm not saying that I'm not saying

1761
01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:10,920
that in in a manner of trying to to

1762
01:20:15,890 --> 01:20:13,920
disprove it or trying to logic it out of

1763
01:20:17,930 --> 01:20:15,900
the conversation but it's just kind of

1764
01:20:19,850 --> 01:20:17,940
interesting to say okay well if they

1765
01:20:21,950 --> 01:20:19,860
need to interpret that information how

1766
01:20:24,970 --> 01:20:21,960
would they do it

1767
01:20:36,169 --> 01:20:30,250
Beetle dung

1768
01:20:37,850 --> 01:20:36,179
no but by reading it by eating it and

1769
01:20:40,430 --> 01:20:37,860
then hallucinating about it do they hook

1770
01:20:42,590 --> 01:20:40,440
themselves that's it like did they shove

1771
01:20:44,990 --> 01:20:42,600
it directly up them you know up the back

1772
01:20:46,490 --> 01:20:45,000
side and opens up their chakras help me

1773
01:20:50,030 --> 01:20:46,500
out here

1774
01:20:51,649 --> 01:20:50,040
well you know back but it was in

1775
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:51,659
California that's what we did with it

1776
01:20:56,530 --> 01:20:53,650
anyway

1777
01:20:58,669 --> 01:20:56,540
[Music]

1778
01:21:01,130 --> 01:20:58,679
it was good

1779
01:21:02,750 --> 01:21:01,140
like well the the the the 80s must have

1780
01:21:04,610 --> 01:21:02,760
been and I'm I was gonna say like out of

1781
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:04,620
the 60s I'm like no that's a little bit

1782
01:21:10,970 --> 01:21:08,239
too early that's insulting 70s

1783
01:21:13,250 --> 01:21:10,980
no I like it okay like the mid 80s must

1784
01:21:15,050 --> 01:21:13,260
have been pretty interesting times it's

1785
01:21:16,729 --> 01:21:15,060
like everyone's like everyone's doing

1786
01:21:19,310 --> 01:21:16,739
you know the the skiing on the White

1787
01:21:21,850 --> 01:21:19,320
Mountains and we're dealing with

1788
01:21:24,350 --> 01:21:21,860
Beetle dung enemas

1789
01:21:26,149 --> 01:21:24,360
you're you're from Washington right like

1790
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:26,159
you're born in that area I was I was

1791
01:21:31,370 --> 01:21:28,320
born in Bellingham which is here okay

1792
01:21:34,910 --> 01:21:31,380
that I was exported for

1793
01:21:38,510 --> 01:21:34,920
school years by my mom down to

1794
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:38,520
from the beach area by LA airport it was

1795
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,320
really great here at Playa del Rey back

1796
01:21:44,870 --> 01:21:42,480
in the 70s it was great it was awesome

1797
01:21:48,649 --> 01:21:44,880
it was like just poor Surfers down there

1798
01:21:51,709 --> 01:21:48,659
and it was a great Beach and

1799
01:21:53,390 --> 01:21:51,719
and uh as soon as I graduated high

1800
01:21:56,750 --> 01:21:53,400
school

1801
01:21:59,570 --> 01:21:56,760
um came back I'm out of here well like

1802
01:22:01,970 --> 01:21:59,580
now that now that we've gotten the the

1803
01:22:03,830 --> 01:22:01,980
like there's only so many ways I can I

1804
01:22:05,930 --> 01:22:03,840
can ask

1805
01:22:07,490 --> 01:22:05,940
why did you build a pyramid like where

1806
01:22:10,729 --> 01:22:07,500
we answer that question like why did you

1807
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:10,739
build it well because okay cool it works

1808
01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,679
how did you get to the point where

1809
01:22:17,149 --> 01:22:15,840
you're in school you're like okay I'm

1810
01:22:19,910 --> 01:22:17,159
out of here and then you end up on an

1811
01:22:23,810 --> 01:22:19,920
Alaskan you know fishing a crabbing boat

1812
01:22:26,870 --> 01:22:23,820
and then back to Washington state to

1813
01:22:28,669 --> 01:22:26,880
become an engineer or an end to to you

1814
01:22:31,149 --> 01:22:28,679
know to to build this model

1815
01:22:34,130 --> 01:22:31,159
well in this area

1816
01:22:36,590 --> 01:22:34,140
Bellingham Seattle all this area all the

1817
01:22:38,930 --> 01:22:36,600
crab boats are are from here

1818
01:22:42,850 --> 01:22:38,940
and so the whole fishing fleet up in

1819
01:22:45,950 --> 01:22:42,860
Dutch Harbors like all the crew and

1820
01:22:49,010 --> 01:22:45,960
it's the college kids go up to Alaska

1821
01:22:51,050 --> 01:22:49,020
for the salmon seasons for Big Money pay

1822
01:22:53,209 --> 01:22:51,060
for college so it's just really common

1823
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:53,219
to go up there it's all they've done for

1824
01:23:00,290 --> 01:22:57,600
ages and so I was just started going up

1825
01:23:02,990 --> 01:23:00,300
there to pay for college and because I'm

1826
01:23:05,209 --> 01:23:03,000
starving and uh

1827
01:23:08,810 --> 01:23:05,219
and God

1828
01:23:10,970 --> 01:23:08,820
kind of they saw us Martins they kept

1829
01:23:12,950 --> 01:23:10,980
going into the engine uh started working

1830
01:23:16,189 --> 01:23:12,960
with the engineers on the boats instead

1831
01:23:17,870 --> 01:23:16,199
just working on processors and stuff and

1832
01:23:19,490 --> 01:23:17,880
started going in the engine room and

1833
01:23:23,330 --> 01:23:19,500
looking at all the refrigeration

1834
01:23:25,630 --> 01:23:23,340
electrical stuff and I mean it had power

1835
01:23:29,450 --> 01:23:25,640
plants and

1836
01:23:31,490 --> 01:23:29,460
fabrication we treated everything so I

1837
01:23:34,970 --> 01:23:31,500
just kind of got

1838
01:23:36,890 --> 01:23:34,980
I mean it was a job and it it paid

1839
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:36,900
really well especially at the time and

1840
01:23:42,590 --> 01:23:40,080
so that kind of people Alaska for a

1841
01:23:43,910 --> 01:23:42,600
couple of months and pay for pay for

1842
01:23:45,890 --> 01:23:43,920
school and

1843
01:23:46,870 --> 01:23:45,900
then eventually just kind of got sucked

1844
01:23:49,010 --> 01:23:46,880
into

1845
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:49,020
engineering on the crab boats because it

1846
01:23:54,050 --> 01:23:53,040
it paid ridiculously well at the time it

1847
01:23:55,310 --> 01:23:54,060
was

1848
01:24:01,610 --> 01:23:55,320
like

1849
01:24:04,669 --> 01:24:01,620
grand a month it's pretty normal

1850
01:24:07,370 --> 01:24:04,679
and and for the credit that translates

1851
01:24:10,430 --> 01:24:07,380
pretty well now so it'd be like making

1852
01:24:14,090 --> 01:24:10,440
like a hundred grand a month

1853
01:24:19,070 --> 01:24:16,510
so that's it and that's that one because

1854
01:24:23,510 --> 01:24:19,080
U.S bonds so I know there's exchange

1855
01:24:25,130 --> 01:24:23,520
yeah so it made really well yeah okay

1856
01:24:29,209 --> 01:24:25,140
you do this for a couple of months and

1857
01:24:31,790 --> 01:24:29,219
not die and and then you have time off

1858
01:24:34,430 --> 01:24:31,800
but then they'd want you back on the

1859
01:24:36,530 --> 01:24:34,440
boat too fast and you didn't have time

1860
01:24:39,169 --> 01:24:36,540
to blow the money you know you know

1861
01:24:42,590 --> 01:24:39,179
strippers and hookers and cocaine to

1862
01:24:48,530 --> 01:24:45,110
one of the one of the Chiefs did that

1863
01:24:52,850 --> 01:24:51,110
but you know it's the stories of how

1864
01:24:55,790 --> 01:24:52,860
they had to blow as much money as

1865
01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:55,800
possible during the month they were off

1866
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:58,080
and

1867
01:25:02,689 --> 01:25:00,000
it says

1868
01:25:07,550 --> 01:25:03,790
um

1869
01:25:10,070 --> 01:25:07,560
this wasn't really much calling so much

1870
01:25:12,530 --> 01:25:10,080
and not I mean

1871
01:25:14,270 --> 01:25:12,540
I I wasn't really interested in pyramids

1872
01:25:17,209 --> 01:25:14,280
honestly I just thought it was overrated

1873
01:25:18,350 --> 01:25:17,219
a pile of rocks that's was my opinion

1874
01:25:21,050 --> 01:25:18,360
until

1875
01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:21,060
started coming across the accuracy

1876
01:25:25,490 --> 01:25:23,040
especially Chris Dunn's work on the

1877
01:25:28,310 --> 01:25:25,500
machine artifacts his words phenomenal

1878
01:25:33,729 --> 01:25:28,320
on the accuracy I mean it's Space Age

1879
01:25:37,850 --> 01:25:36,290
well truth be told it like you know and

1880
01:25:38,689 --> 01:25:37,860
this is to

1881
01:25:40,970 --> 01:25:38,699
um

1882
01:25:43,130 --> 01:25:40,980
I I'm more of a realist when it comes to

1883
01:25:45,229 --> 01:25:43,140
the overall engineering Feats of of

1884
01:25:47,209 --> 01:25:45,239
ancient cultures it's I I don't

1885
01:25:50,149 --> 01:25:47,219
prescribe necessarily to the ancient

1886
01:25:52,010 --> 01:25:50,159
alien hypothesis with regards to every

1887
01:25:54,890 --> 01:25:52,020
you know do not know how it was built so

1888
01:25:58,850 --> 01:25:54,900
must be aliens because I I believe in

1889
01:26:01,250 --> 01:25:58,860
the uh the Ingenuity of man and and man

1890
01:26:02,810 --> 01:26:01,260
being human not you know men women in

1891
01:26:03,950 --> 01:26:02,820
terms of just being able to figure

1892
01:26:08,450 --> 01:26:03,960
things out

1893
01:26:12,050 --> 01:26:08,460
right the accuracy for the fact that

1894
01:26:13,910 --> 01:26:12,060
they were still using bronze medals for

1895
01:26:17,330 --> 01:26:13,920
a majority of their construction and

1896
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:17,340
weaponry uh to get that close to a true

1897
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:20,159
north is impressive

1898
01:26:25,129 --> 01:26:22,800
um if it were Aid and you know somebody

1899
01:26:27,110 --> 01:26:25,139
else out there yeah you know I think Ram

1900
01:26:29,209 --> 01:26:27,120
Hancock was right within regards to if

1901
01:26:31,129 --> 01:26:29,219
they was space aliens it would have been

1902
01:26:33,229 --> 01:26:31,139
bang on True North it's off by a couple

1903
01:26:35,510 --> 01:26:33,239
of degrees so

1904
01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:35,520
even for that the fact that they did

1905
01:26:41,209 --> 01:26:37,679
that with string

1906
01:26:42,229 --> 01:26:41,219
um you know some sticks and uh you know

1907
01:26:47,930 --> 01:26:42,239
whatever

1908
01:26:51,229 --> 01:26:47,940
for compasses back then that's that's

1909
01:26:52,490 --> 01:26:51,239
impressive like you know I I have a hard

1910
01:26:55,970 --> 01:26:52,500
time trying to be able to butter my

1911
01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:55,980
toast evenly in the morning so the fact

1912
01:27:00,350 --> 01:26:57,360
that they did this five thousand years

1913
01:27:03,229 --> 01:27:00,360
ago yeah I gotta say that's kind of a a

1914
01:27:04,129 --> 01:27:03,239
testament to what our species is capable

1915
01:27:07,070 --> 01:27:04,139
of doing

1916
01:27:09,649 --> 01:27:07,080
right I I'm going with the it was just a

1917
01:27:11,209 --> 01:27:09,659
previous civilization it was people as

1918
01:27:11,870 --> 01:27:11,219
humans

1919
01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:11,880
um

1920
01:27:16,970 --> 01:27:14,639
and it was just hit you were hit by the

1921
01:27:19,010 --> 01:27:16,980
comet younger driest

1922
01:27:21,649 --> 01:27:19,020
that's pretty obvious that there was a

1923
01:27:25,129 --> 01:27:21,659
huge event that you know the black man

1924
01:27:26,890 --> 01:27:25,139
and it pretty much wiped out most of the

1925
01:27:30,649 --> 01:27:26,900
humanity and

1926
01:27:33,950 --> 01:27:30,659
and like the Netflix series of Graham

1927
01:27:37,490 --> 01:27:33,960
Han Fox where he has Randall Carlson

1928
01:27:40,370 --> 01:27:37,500
you know that would say that

1929
01:27:42,530 --> 01:27:40,380
platforms the name of it right off yeah

1930
01:27:46,010 --> 01:27:42,540
but

1931
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,020
you know it just it shows that

1932
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:48,480
you know from all angles that we were

1933
01:27:55,370 --> 01:27:50,639
you know we're flooded we're flooded now

1934
01:27:55,380 --> 01:27:57,649
uh

1935
01:28:02,870 --> 01:27:59,570
it was just an ancient so it was a

1936
01:28:05,590 --> 01:28:02,880
civilization that was wiped out and and

1937
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:05,600
the pyramids are just remnants of that

1938
01:28:09,770 --> 01:28:07,920
there was there was this machine

1939
01:28:11,450 --> 01:28:09,780
artifacts it's

1940
01:28:14,750 --> 01:28:11,460
but

1941
01:28:17,149 --> 01:28:14,760
if nothing else the bull boxes of the

1942
01:28:18,890 --> 01:28:17,159
Sarah PM but nothing else

1943
01:28:22,330 --> 01:28:18,900
there's 13 of them

1944
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:22,340
they're Optical Precision to within to

1945
01:28:31,189 --> 01:28:25,920
whether it be 11 feet by 13 feet by

1946
01:28:34,310 --> 01:28:31,199
eight feet uh machined out of uh

1947
01:28:35,450 --> 01:28:34,320
single pieces of uh Granite they came

1948
01:28:36,970 --> 01:28:35,460
from somewhere else and they're

1949
01:28:40,550 --> 01:28:36,980
underground

1950
01:28:43,189 --> 01:28:40,560
and Chris Dunn took his Ultra Precision

1951
01:28:47,090 --> 01:28:43,199
you know the right angles the squares

1952
01:28:50,750 --> 01:28:47,100
and and the straight edges and it's

1953
01:28:53,870 --> 01:28:50,760
it's Optical Precision like it's it's

1954
01:28:56,330 --> 01:28:53,880
this is a machine artifacts

1955
01:28:58,550 --> 01:28:56,340
and so it was from a previous civil

1956
01:29:01,250 --> 01:28:58,560
issue a civilization they got wiped out

1957
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:01,260
younger guys you know do you think it's

1958
01:29:07,669 --> 01:29:03,840
possible that it's not necessarily

1959
01:29:10,129 --> 01:29:07,679
machined but people who had

1960
01:29:13,310 --> 01:29:10,139
a lot of time on their hands with

1961
01:29:15,590 --> 01:29:13,320
nothing else to do and just you know

1962
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:15,600
years and years of expertise

1963
01:29:27,590 --> 01:29:23,990
he he puts a you know straight edge

1964
01:29:30,890 --> 01:29:27,600
up against the Box

1965
01:29:32,270 --> 01:29:30,900
Grant box and shines a flashlight and

1966
01:29:34,330 --> 01:29:32,280
there's no light that goes in between

1967
01:29:36,530 --> 01:29:34,340
this Ultra precision

1968
01:29:38,990 --> 01:29:36,540
you know straight edge

1969
01:29:41,450 --> 01:29:39,000
that's you can't even you couldn't do

1970
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:41,460
that with anything I think you could I I

1971
01:29:46,970 --> 01:29:44,159
think if if somebody's job for 20 years

1972
01:29:51,790 --> 01:29:46,980
was okay your entire job for 20 years is

1973
01:29:58,610 --> 01:29:54,530
it's like Bodywork you're not gonna do

1974
01:30:00,350 --> 01:29:58,620
Optical Precision even with with Bondo

1975
01:30:02,930 --> 01:30:00,360
and stuff you're not no I know people

1976
01:30:06,649 --> 01:30:02,940
who I know people who can my my late

1977
01:30:08,750 --> 01:30:06,659
uncle was a master body worker and what

1978
01:30:10,850 --> 01:30:08,760
he could do with Bondo was very

1979
01:30:13,370 --> 01:30:10,860
impressive we're getting Optical

1980
01:30:15,290 --> 01:30:13,380
Precision though and it was cool optical

1981
01:30:18,410 --> 01:30:15,300
Precision is

1982
01:30:19,790 --> 01:30:18,420
two two one two one hundred thousandths

1983
01:30:22,129 --> 01:30:19,800
of an inch

1984
01:30:23,810 --> 01:30:22,139
in a two foot span

1985
01:30:26,990 --> 01:30:23,820
that's

1986
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:27,000
like one we're making supposition like

1987
01:30:31,250 --> 01:30:30,000
I'm saying it's possible is it likely I

1988
01:30:32,990 --> 01:30:31,260
don't know I wasn't there to you know

1989
01:30:34,669 --> 01:30:33,000
three four thousand years ago or two

1990
01:30:36,530 --> 01:30:34,679
thousand years ago when it was built I'm

1991
01:30:38,570 --> 01:30:36,540
just thinking I'm just saying that I'm

1992
01:30:40,070 --> 01:30:38,580
of the mind that if you get a master

1993
01:30:43,610 --> 01:30:40,080
builder

1994
01:30:47,149 --> 01:30:43,620
getting close to Perfection when that's

1995
01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:47,159
literally all you do every single day if

1996
01:30:50,990 --> 01:30:48,540
it takes you

1997
01:30:53,149 --> 01:30:51,000
20 years to even let's see let's say

1998
01:30:55,790 --> 01:30:53,159
you've got 10 people who are working on

1999
01:30:59,629 --> 01:30:55,800
one box or you know let's see that so

2000
01:31:01,790 --> 01:30:59,639
one two three four five six seven eight

2001
01:31:06,350 --> 01:31:01,800
nine let's take a nine nine Master

2002
01:31:11,330 --> 01:31:06,360
craftsmen who for 20 years their entire

2003
01:31:13,070 --> 01:31:11,340
job is to get one side as perfect as

2004
01:31:15,050 --> 01:31:13,080
possible and that's literally all they

2005
01:31:16,790 --> 01:31:15,060
do

2006
01:31:19,490 --> 01:31:16,800
I would think that if they're taking

2007
01:31:20,810 --> 01:31:19,500
their time and they're using the proper

2008
01:31:22,910 --> 01:31:20,820
tools and the proper measurements and

2009
01:31:25,070 --> 01:31:22,920
they've got the proper technique they

2010
01:31:27,050 --> 01:31:25,080
would get that kind of precision if they

2011
01:31:28,490 --> 01:31:27,060
were to take that long to be able to do

2012
01:31:29,689 --> 01:31:28,500
it because even even we don't

2013
01:31:31,910 --> 01:31:29,699
necessarily know how long it took them

2014
01:31:34,370 --> 01:31:31,920
to how long it took how many people

2015
01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:34,380
worked on it you know what what can what

2016
01:31:38,689 --> 01:31:36,239
construction techniques we're we're

2017
01:31:42,470 --> 01:31:38,699
we're basing our

2018
01:31:44,570 --> 01:31:42,480
um uh you know our perspectives from

2019
01:31:46,010 --> 01:31:44,580
what we know is possible and trying to

2020
01:31:48,590 --> 01:31:46,020
be able to project it on the workmanship

2021
01:31:50,450 --> 01:31:48,600
from 20 you know from from Millennia ago

2022
01:31:51,709 --> 01:31:50,460
and I'm saying that it you know is it

2023
01:31:53,810 --> 01:31:51,719
possible that Chris Dunn is right and

2024
01:31:57,709 --> 01:31:53,820
that that it was machined

2025
01:31:59,510 --> 01:31:57,719
yeah it's it is possible it is or are we

2026
01:32:01,550 --> 01:31:59,520
talking about electrically powered

2027
01:32:04,129 --> 01:32:01,560
machines they could have had something

2028
01:32:06,110 --> 01:32:04,139
that was you know human powered they

2029
01:32:08,090 --> 01:32:06,120
could have had techniques or tools that

2030
01:32:09,410 --> 01:32:08,100
uh would get very close to that

2031
01:32:11,270 --> 01:32:09,420
Precision maybe it would take a lot

2032
01:32:13,310 --> 01:32:11,280
longer you know you're not dealing with

2033
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:13,320
three or four thousand or ten thousand

2034
01:32:17,750 --> 01:32:16,080
or Twenty Thousand RPM but

2035
01:32:19,370 --> 01:32:17,760
you know they're there are still

2036
01:32:24,770 --> 01:32:19,380
techniques and tools that can be used

2037
01:32:30,010 --> 01:32:26,330
for that argument

2038
01:32:30,020 --> 01:32:36,229
I can't cater to that really

2039
01:32:40,790 --> 01:32:39,470
I'm just not well again I'm all I'm also

2040
01:32:42,350 --> 01:32:40,800
the guy asking questions I'm the

2041
01:32:45,229 --> 01:32:42,360
interviewer you're the actual engineer

2042
01:32:48,410 --> 01:32:45,239
you build the stuff I'm the one asking

2043
01:32:49,689 --> 01:32:48,420
you how this stuff is built so I worked

2044
01:32:53,090 --> 01:32:49,699
in the Machine Shop

2045
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:53,100
stuff and so I have a pretty good idea

2046
01:32:58,129 --> 01:32:55,920
of tolerances

2047
01:32:59,810 --> 01:32:58,139
I'll work with Doug is saying water

2048
01:33:01,910 --> 01:32:59,820
powered that makes a little bit more

2049
01:33:03,950 --> 01:33:01,920
sense it's like you know you could do a

2050
01:33:07,370 --> 01:33:03,960
water power sort of

2051
01:33:09,890 --> 01:33:07,380
sort of machine to spin some stuff and

2052
01:33:11,930 --> 01:33:09,900
and grind and all but still you need

2053
01:33:15,410 --> 01:33:11,940
absolutely straight

2054
01:33:17,750 --> 01:33:15,420
bed for the tooling to go on and so you

2055
01:33:20,750 --> 01:33:17,760
have to make an absolutely straight bed

2056
01:33:22,729 --> 01:33:20,760
for the tooling to go on and that's one

2057
01:33:25,189 --> 01:33:22,739
thing that Chris is always saying okay

2058
01:33:27,410 --> 01:33:25,199
you know you need to have the straight

2059
01:33:30,530 --> 01:33:27,420
data ahead of time that's absolutely

2060
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:30,540
precise and we're talking Precision to

2061
01:33:38,270 --> 01:33:34,560
the point of of where just the heat from

2062
01:33:41,390 --> 01:33:38,280
tooling would change enough tolerances

2063
01:33:44,930 --> 01:33:41,400
that you start getting variances in the

2064
01:33:47,930 --> 01:33:44,940
in the tooling itself and that's absent

2065
01:33:50,629 --> 01:33:47,940
it's it's the precisions

2066
01:33:53,689 --> 01:33:50,639
this ground this ground you know it's

2067
01:33:56,990 --> 01:33:53,699
huge and the tops and the walls are

2068
01:34:00,350 --> 01:33:57,000
parallel the top fits athlete perfectly

2069
01:34:03,770 --> 01:34:00,360
where it's absolute perfect right angle

2070
01:34:06,470 --> 01:34:03,780
so they're absolutely parallels sides in

2071
01:34:08,330 --> 01:34:06,480
something that you know 10 people can

2072
01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:08,340
easily fit in

2073
01:34:14,410 --> 01:34:10,800
and it's a single block and it was done

2074
01:34:16,729 --> 01:34:14,420
underground that way it's like oh that's

2075
01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:16,739
as long as we're not talking that they

2076
01:34:29,330 --> 01:34:25,850
this is I mean you can do it

2077
01:34:30,709 --> 01:34:29,340
with the right equipment well it's like

2078
01:34:34,669 --> 01:34:30,719
with anything else if you got the right

2079
01:34:38,209 --> 01:34:34,679
tool for the job but even even

2080
01:34:42,050 --> 01:34:38,219
like I I think back to you know my uncle

2081
01:34:43,910 --> 01:34:42,060
uh you know may rest in peace he was a

2082
01:34:46,370 --> 01:34:43,920
master woodworker and the stuff that he

2083
01:34:50,570 --> 01:34:46,380
could do with a you know a hammer chisel

2084
01:34:52,729 --> 01:34:50,580
and uh you know a planer

2085
01:34:54,290 --> 01:34:52,739
you know I I wouldn't understand how he

2086
01:34:55,790 --> 01:34:54,300
did it you'll be able to join two pieces

2087
01:34:58,850 --> 01:34:55,800
of wood together so that they would

2088
01:35:01,370 --> 01:34:58,860
appear to be one piece without any uh

2089
01:35:03,649 --> 01:35:01,380
you know noticeable joining in between

2090
01:35:05,810 --> 01:35:03,659
you know my dad would talk about stuff

2091
01:35:07,129 --> 01:35:05,820
like that his brother could do when we

2092
01:35:08,689 --> 01:35:07,139
were working on stuff and he's like oh

2093
01:35:10,189 --> 01:35:08,699
man like if you know like my brother

2094
01:35:11,390 --> 01:35:10,199
would hear he'd be able to fix this up

2095
01:35:13,129 --> 01:35:11,400
and it you wouldn't even notice that it

2096
01:35:16,370 --> 01:35:13,139
was two pieces of wood I'm thinking like

2097
01:35:18,530 --> 01:35:16,380
how the hell you know would he be able

2098
01:35:20,750 --> 01:35:18,540
to do that but he had been also doing it

2099
01:35:22,490 --> 01:35:20,760
for for 50 years

2100
01:35:23,570 --> 01:35:22,500
um you know what I didn't real like I

2101
01:35:25,189 --> 01:35:23,580
didn't know what tools would be

2102
01:35:27,649 --> 01:35:25,199
available whether it be hand tools or

2103
01:35:29,629 --> 01:35:27,659
whether it be powered tools so like I

2104
01:35:32,629 --> 01:35:29,639
look at things like that I'm you know I

2105
01:35:34,430 --> 01:35:32,639
I look at the the basics of what could

2106
01:35:36,110 --> 01:35:34,440
be available and I don't necessarily

2107
01:35:38,330 --> 01:35:36,120
think about okay well what what would

2108
01:35:39,590 --> 01:35:38,340
they have had and also we're we're

2109
01:35:41,390 --> 01:35:39,600
talking about

2110
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,400
thousands of years ago

2111
01:35:46,490 --> 01:35:43,920
you know like like some of the tools we

2112
01:35:47,930 --> 01:35:46,500
haven't found is it under sand is it

2113
01:35:49,610 --> 01:35:47,940
buried somewhere else in a tomb

2114
01:35:52,490 --> 01:35:49,620
somewhere was it taken out to another

2115
01:35:54,110 --> 01:35:52,500
you know another site and lost you know

2116
01:35:56,030 --> 01:35:54,120
what was it only certain people that had

2117
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:56,040
access to these things like these are

2118
01:36:00,410 --> 01:35:58,800
all questions you know we don't like we

2119
01:36:03,169 --> 01:36:00,420
think we know but we don't know

2120
01:36:04,610 --> 01:36:03,179
like we you know we could we have we can

2121
01:36:05,510 --> 01:36:04,620
have ideas about it but at the end of

2122
01:36:08,450 --> 01:36:05,520
the day

2123
01:36:10,430 --> 01:36:08,460
whether it's us whether it's it's uh you

2124
01:36:11,870 --> 01:36:10,440
know archaeologists we're making the

2125
01:36:13,610 --> 01:36:11,880
best guesses based on the information

2126
01:36:15,110 --> 01:36:13,620
that we have available to us that we can

2127
01:36:18,590 --> 01:36:15,120
see in front of our eyes or the things

2128
01:36:20,930 --> 01:36:18,600
that we found but you even factor in uh

2129
01:36:21,890 --> 01:36:20,940
and I brought this this point up uh uh

2130
01:36:26,810 --> 01:36:21,900
you know two weeks ago when I was

2131
01:36:31,729 --> 01:36:29,570
we we look at the fossil and I'm you

2132
01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:31,739
know obviously trying to equate fossils

2133
01:36:35,930 --> 01:36:34,080
with tools is two different things but

2134
01:36:36,830 --> 01:36:35,940
we don't even have a necessary like a

2135
01:36:39,709 --> 01:36:36,840
full picture of the fossil record

2136
01:36:42,830 --> 01:36:39,719
because the fossilization of two of of

2137
01:36:46,010 --> 01:36:42,840
Bones requires very specific uh

2138
01:36:47,570 --> 01:36:46,020
environment so you know for metal yeah

2139
01:36:50,030 --> 01:36:47,580
that that's going to last for a very

2140
01:36:51,709 --> 01:36:50,040
long time unless it's it's something

2141
01:36:53,450 --> 01:36:51,719
that can rust and then if it's gonna

2142
01:36:56,030 --> 01:36:53,460
rust it's gonna oxidize and will it go

2143
01:36:57,290 --> 01:36:56,040
back to dust or or or what have you if

2144
01:36:59,870 --> 01:36:57,300
it's steel it could be around if it's

2145
01:37:03,169 --> 01:36:59,880
bronze that kind of thing if they're

2146
01:37:05,990 --> 01:37:03,179
only finding certain tools are more

2147
01:37:08,390 --> 01:37:06,000
advanced tools buried even you know

2148
01:37:09,830 --> 01:37:08,400
deeper is it underneath the sand you

2149
01:37:11,990 --> 01:37:09,840
know the Sphinx had been buried up to

2150
01:37:14,270 --> 01:37:12,000
its neck a few times

2151
01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:14,280
so and that was over just a couple

2152
01:37:18,110 --> 01:37:15,360
hundred years

2153
01:37:20,330 --> 01:37:18,120
if they didn't spontaneously or if they

2154
01:37:22,669 --> 01:37:20,340
didn't continuously maintain the Sphinx

2155
01:37:25,189 --> 01:37:22,679
the desert would retake it

2156
01:37:26,750 --> 01:37:25,199
so you know that that's the thing at

2157
01:37:29,030 --> 01:37:26,760
least I want to be able to to pose to

2158
01:37:31,010 --> 01:37:29,040
anybody else out there

2159
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:31,020
I'd be interested to see what the tools

2160
01:37:33,950 --> 01:37:32,639
that you use but that obviously they

2161
01:37:37,330 --> 01:37:33,960
haven't shown

2162
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:39,770
there was one video

2163
01:37:43,250 --> 01:37:41,760
um I forget I honestly do not remember

2164
01:37:47,330 --> 01:37:43,260
the channel it was on

2165
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:47,340
but there were trying to recreate some

2166
01:37:52,910 --> 01:37:50,400
of the crafts uh like crafting

2167
01:37:54,410 --> 01:37:52,920
techniques for the bowls or you know

2168
01:37:56,689 --> 01:37:54,420
some of the pottery and how they were

2169
01:37:59,209 --> 01:37:56,699
shaping Stone whether it was like using

2170
01:38:01,729 --> 01:37:59,219
foot foot pedaled uh uh drilling

2171
01:38:02,990 --> 01:38:01,739
machines or buffing machines

2172
01:38:05,090 --> 01:38:03,000
um and they were able to get some pretty

2173
01:38:07,689 --> 01:38:05,100
interesting results out of that but I

2174
01:38:11,149 --> 01:38:07,699
also like think back to this one video

2175
01:38:12,590 --> 01:38:11,159
again my memory escapes me when it comes

2176
01:38:15,770 --> 01:38:12,600
to half the time when it comes to half

2177
01:38:17,990 --> 01:38:15,780
of the uh YouTube video channel names

2178
01:38:20,510 --> 01:38:18,000
out there because it's like some random

2179
01:38:22,490 --> 01:38:20,520
name with like 777 next to it and

2180
01:38:23,689 --> 01:38:22,500
somebody's trying to make like a a hand

2181
01:38:27,290 --> 01:38:23,699
drill and they'll make three different

2182
01:38:29,930 --> 01:38:27,300
hand drills uh and some will be more

2183
01:38:31,189 --> 01:38:29,940
effective than others some will be like

2184
01:38:32,689 --> 01:38:31,199
okay there's too much friction that

2185
01:38:35,750 --> 01:38:32,699
doesn't that you know style wouldn't

2186
01:38:38,750 --> 01:38:35,760
work this one would produce more uh you

2187
01:38:40,550 --> 01:38:38,760
know kin to uh like a power drill but it

2188
01:38:43,790 --> 01:38:40,560
would take much longer

2189
01:38:46,250 --> 01:38:43,800
um like how if you were to

2190
01:38:49,490 --> 01:38:46,260
and just just spitballing here like if

2191
01:38:52,850 --> 01:38:49,500
you were to look at uh the techniques

2192
01:38:55,850 --> 01:38:52,860
that were potentially used if you only

2193
01:38:57,470 --> 01:38:55,860
had hand tools available to you

2194
01:38:59,750 --> 01:38:57,480
and you said okay well it's got to be as

2195
01:39:05,510 --> 01:38:59,760
close to perfect as possible

2196
01:39:09,890 --> 01:39:07,250
I have no idea

2197
01:39:13,010 --> 01:39:09,900
just I I don't I don't know how you even

2198
01:39:17,750 --> 01:39:14,930
he I mean

2199
01:39:19,129 --> 01:39:17,760
but just handful she could you you'd

2200
01:39:21,890 --> 01:39:19,139
have to make some sort of diamond

2201
01:39:24,350 --> 01:39:21,900
cutting blades out of something

2202
01:39:27,590 --> 01:39:24,360
you know if you're looking at exactly

2203
01:39:30,110 --> 01:39:27,600
what the materials they had for

2204
01:39:33,229 --> 01:39:30,120
let's say 4 500 BC

2205
01:39:37,729 --> 01:39:33,239
whenever they say that Pyramid has been

2206
01:39:43,850 --> 01:39:40,189
well if if we're talking about like

2207
01:39:46,129 --> 01:39:43,860
powered whether it's you know it whether

2208
01:39:48,590 --> 01:39:46,139
it's more advanced you know water

2209
01:39:49,910 --> 01:39:48,600
powered as Doug had mentioned or if

2210
01:39:53,149 --> 01:39:49,920
we're using

2211
01:39:55,610 --> 01:39:53,159
like some type of hand-powered that

2212
01:39:56,689 --> 01:39:55,620
could produce a very high RPM like how

2213
01:39:59,629 --> 01:39:56,699
do you think they'd be able to to

2214
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:59,639
produce a diamond tipped tool at that

2215
01:40:03,350 --> 01:40:01,679
point I'm I'm actually like honestly

2216
01:40:05,990 --> 01:40:03,360
asking because I don't even know how we

2217
01:40:08,930 --> 01:40:06,000
do it nowadays it's not my expertise so

2218
01:40:12,290 --> 01:40:08,940
when they say oh it's a diamond tip saw

2219
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:12,300
how do they make the diamond tips off

2220
01:40:19,550 --> 01:40:15,840
if if they were just using Straight what

2221
01:40:22,070 --> 01:40:19,560
the the basic history says they just did

2222
01:40:25,790 --> 01:40:22,080
use copper they could use like a copper

2223
01:40:28,370 --> 01:40:25,800
and then and they just uh embed Diamond

2224
01:40:32,090 --> 01:40:28,380
grit you know rough diamonds into the

2225
01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:32,100
into the surface of the uh of the blade

2226
01:40:35,930 --> 01:40:34,080
that they could if they just wanted to

2227
01:40:39,470 --> 01:40:35,940
cut it and then they just use that as a

2228
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:39,480
cut uh that'd be one way to do it that's

2229
01:40:50,149 --> 01:40:48,290
do chord drills you could you know use

2230
01:40:52,370 --> 01:40:50,159
diamonds instead

2231
01:40:55,610 --> 01:40:52,380
well if you're doing a core drill and

2232
01:40:57,830 --> 01:40:55,620
you had diamonds like diamonds aren't

2233
01:41:00,050 --> 01:40:57,840
affected by heat up until like you you

2234
01:41:01,970 --> 01:41:00,060
have to like real real hot build it to

2235
01:41:04,850 --> 01:41:01,980
affect a diamond so like with able to

2236
01:41:08,990 --> 01:41:04,860
actually like include that within the

2237
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,590
I have no idea yeah

2238
01:41:16,370 --> 01:41:15,050
I'm slick I mean it'd be it'd be a a

2239
01:41:19,570 --> 01:41:16,380
nice tool

2240
01:41:22,430 --> 01:41:19,580
it would it would cut through stuff

2241
01:41:24,229 --> 01:41:22,440
but I guess there is no actual signs of

2242
01:41:26,990 --> 01:41:24,239
diamonds there but there's dimes in

2243
01:41:28,669 --> 01:41:27,000
Africa I can't discount any of that and

2244
01:41:31,490 --> 01:41:28,679
there's obviously copper

2245
01:41:34,669 --> 01:41:31,500
this Copper's on the record there and

2246
01:41:37,310 --> 01:41:34,679
we have proper tools I'm 94. this before

2247
01:41:39,169 --> 01:41:37,320
the Bronze Age so I

2248
01:41:42,129 --> 01:41:39,179
I'm thinking back to this like one like

2249
01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:42,139
talking about you know

2250
01:41:46,729 --> 01:41:45,360
creating very weird cutting utensils

2251
01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:46,739
there's this one Japanese YouTube

2252
01:41:49,790 --> 01:41:48,719
channel and I don't don't know the name

2253
01:41:52,010 --> 01:41:49,800
of it

2254
01:41:53,870 --> 01:41:52,020
for the life of me but the guy will make

2255
01:41:55,189 --> 01:41:53,880
Knives Out of anything it's like I'm

2256
01:41:58,189 --> 01:41:55,199
gonna you know make a chocolate knife

2257
01:42:00,109 --> 01:41:58,199
and he'll somehow use chocolate to

2258
01:42:02,450 --> 01:42:00,119
develop a blade and he'll sharpen it and

2259
01:42:05,390 --> 01:42:02,460
he'll show how it cuts and it's it's

2260
01:42:07,010 --> 01:42:05,400
it's it's very uh it's cool because he's

2261
01:42:09,950 --> 01:42:07,020
done stuff with like bismuth and what

2262
01:42:11,629 --> 01:42:09,960
have you and I'm just talking

2263
01:42:13,550 --> 01:42:11,639
just to be able to show you how long of

2264
01:42:16,129 --> 01:42:13,560
a day I've had like talking about like

2265
01:42:18,590 --> 01:42:16,139
oh like diamond encrusted you know

2266
01:42:20,030 --> 01:42:18,600
boring copper tools I'm like I'm kind of

2267
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:20,040
hungry now because I'm thinking about

2268
01:42:23,750 --> 01:42:22,560
the knives like oh my goodness I need a

2269
01:42:25,609 --> 01:42:23,760
snack

2270
01:42:28,669 --> 01:42:25,619
um

2271
01:42:35,510 --> 01:42:30,950
if

2272
01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:35,520
this type of of construction would have

2273
01:42:38,330 --> 01:42:36,719
been done either through powered or hand

2274
01:42:40,910 --> 01:42:38,340
tools like again like we're talking

2275
01:42:42,410 --> 01:42:40,920
semantics at this point for for the type

2276
01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:42,420
of of

2277
01:42:48,470 --> 01:42:45,840
um chamber that we're dealing with here

2278
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:48,480
on a large scale how long do you think

2279
01:42:51,590 --> 01:42:49,920
it would take for somebody to be able to

2280
01:42:53,330 --> 01:42:51,600
bore this like to be able to bore this

2281
01:42:54,890 --> 01:42:53,340
out even if you've got a couple thousand

2282
01:42:57,950 --> 01:42:54,900
people I guess it's something that you

2283
01:43:01,370 --> 01:42:59,629
like a short amount of time are we

2284
01:43:04,430 --> 01:43:01,380
talking like you know centuries are we

2285
01:43:06,410 --> 01:43:04,440
talking progressively improved upon like

2286
01:43:08,689 --> 01:43:06,420
in in terms of like for all the time you

2287
01:43:10,370 --> 01:43:08,699
spent building models how do you think

2288
01:43:16,010 --> 01:43:10,380
that they would have gone about doing

2289
01:43:19,189 --> 01:43:17,270
I

2290
01:43:21,470 --> 01:43:19,199
if you just talk about like the bull

2291
01:43:23,090 --> 01:43:21,480
boxes themselves I'm not sure which

2292
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:23,100
artifacts well I was actually talking

2293
01:43:27,530 --> 01:43:25,440
about the the Subterranean chamber oh I

2294
01:43:31,250 --> 01:43:27,540
you know I don't know how

2295
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:32,209
to

2296
01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:35,520
board down at a 26 degree angle just for

2297
01:43:41,689 --> 01:43:38,880
the descending passage for 330 feet and

2298
01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:41,699
uh it's laser straight how do you do a

2299
01:43:46,850 --> 01:43:44,159
three foot shaft it's the angle's the

2300
01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:46,860
problem see if you get like a 26 degree

2301
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:49,440
angle

2302
01:43:55,250 --> 01:43:52,560
and to key and to hold it and like chip

2303
01:43:58,070 --> 01:43:55,260
down forward at that specific angle not

2304
01:44:00,410 --> 01:43:58,080
waiver at all I don't know how you do it

2305
01:44:02,510 --> 01:44:00,420
it'd be awful because they're they're

2306
01:44:05,030 --> 01:44:02,520
saying they just had you know people

2307
01:44:07,430 --> 01:44:05,040
it's like chipping rocks and

2308
01:44:10,790 --> 01:44:07,440
this is really silly stuff

2309
01:44:15,770 --> 01:44:12,290
then you wouldn't have any air and be

2310
01:44:18,649 --> 01:44:15,780
Dusty and and the guys pounding in front

2311
01:44:19,729 --> 01:44:18,659
of them doing anything see the thing is

2312
01:44:22,070 --> 01:44:19,739
if

2313
01:44:23,810 --> 01:44:22,080
vertical shafts or horizontal shafts

2314
01:44:24,590 --> 01:44:23,820
that's completely different you can do

2315
01:44:27,169 --> 01:44:24,600
that

2316
01:44:29,209 --> 01:44:27,179
you know you've got gravity and and

2317
01:44:31,550 --> 01:44:29,219
gravity and water and stuff so you can

2318
01:44:33,290 --> 01:44:31,560
you could level and you can force

2319
01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:33,300
straight down you just hang it you can't

2320
01:44:38,450 --> 01:44:36,239
but 26 degree angle you don't hang

2321
01:44:40,850 --> 01:44:38,460
something you have to have something

2322
01:44:43,070 --> 01:44:40,860
that kind of goes at that angle

2323
01:44:46,490 --> 01:44:43,080
and then you've got gravity you've got

2324
01:44:49,729 --> 01:44:46,500
like a dangling and flex and

2325
01:44:52,250 --> 01:44:49,739
its laser straight it's within was a

2326
01:44:55,570 --> 01:44:52,260
hundredth of an inch over or a tenth of

2327
01:44:58,189 --> 01:44:55,580
an inch over a hundred foot stretch

2328
01:45:00,790 --> 01:44:58,199
that's a descending passage it's it's

2329
01:45:03,470 --> 01:45:00,800
laser straight foreign

2330
01:45:05,590 --> 01:45:03,480
like a very large protractor I'm

2331
01:45:08,629 --> 01:45:05,600
guessing

2332
01:45:10,790 --> 01:45:08,639
you still have to you got this angle you

2333
01:45:13,430 --> 01:45:10,800
got to keep going down and like you got

2334
01:45:15,410 --> 01:45:13,440
to get the stuff out past this I mean

2335
01:45:19,550 --> 01:45:15,420
all I ever hear about people that walk

2336
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:19,560
down that that 300 foot it's like you

2337
01:45:25,370 --> 01:45:21,119
know it's a football field

2338
01:45:28,010 --> 01:45:25,380
down that at is three foot square they

2339
01:45:30,709 --> 01:45:28,020
hate going just going down there walking

2340
01:45:33,350 --> 01:45:30,719
down it walked out backwards and stuff

2341
01:45:38,629 --> 01:45:33,360
cheese am I here yet these guys are like

2342
01:45:40,370 --> 01:45:38,639
chippy stuff and and bagging up this

2343
01:45:42,649 --> 01:45:40,380
little bit of dust they're chipping out

2344
01:45:45,229 --> 01:45:42,659
and there's no air because you got no

2345
01:45:46,570 --> 01:45:45,239
airflow and no lights because you don't

2346
01:45:49,189 --> 01:45:46,580
really have electric lights and stuff

2347
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:49,199
there at the top you fall you're going

2348
01:45:52,729 --> 01:45:50,880
all the way down to the bottom it's like

2349
01:45:55,250 --> 01:45:52,739
there's nothing to stop you

2350
01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:55,260
yeah so it's

2351
01:45:59,570 --> 01:45:57,119
I don't know how they did it I couldn't

2352
01:46:04,669 --> 01:46:01,750
I don't know

2353
01:46:08,570 --> 01:46:04,679
almost impossible almost impossible fast

2354
01:46:10,850 --> 01:46:08,580
now like do you think the the

2355
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,860
like do you think the whole like we

2356
01:46:13,970 --> 01:46:12,960
don't know

2357
01:46:16,910 --> 01:46:13,980
um

2358
01:46:18,950 --> 01:46:16,920
idea of an like being able to say like

2359
01:46:20,390 --> 01:46:18,960
oh I don't know how this was done

2360
01:46:21,830 --> 01:46:20,400
and we're trying to be able to figure

2361
01:46:25,970 --> 01:46:21,840
things out

2362
01:46:27,709 --> 01:46:25,980
and we will a lot of the time uh and I

2363
01:46:28,910 --> 01:46:27,719
said like I mentioned before impose our

2364
01:46:30,770 --> 01:46:28,920
own

2365
01:46:33,050 --> 01:46:30,780
um you know perspectives and work and

2366
01:46:34,850 --> 01:46:33,060
experiences on to to certain Solutions

2367
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:34,860
and it's great to have that kind of

2368
01:46:38,570 --> 01:46:36,960
perspective and knowledge because like

2369
01:46:42,109 --> 01:46:38,580
you know we've got a few thousand years

2370
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:42,119
of uh Collective knowledge that we can

2371
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:43,920
pull from to try and solve those

2372
01:46:48,910 --> 01:46:45,360
problems

2373
01:46:52,490 --> 01:46:48,920
um but do you think like with the way

2374
01:46:55,070 --> 01:46:52,500
information is being presented nowadays

2375
01:46:56,570 --> 01:46:55,080
and the ease it is to be able to reject

2376
01:46:59,689 --> 01:46:56,580
certain ideas

2377
01:47:02,649 --> 01:46:59,699
because of uh you know our faster

2378
01:47:05,570 --> 01:47:02,659
Society do you think like that's more of

2379
01:47:07,490 --> 01:47:05,580
a an obstacle in terms of trying to

2380
01:47:14,629 --> 01:47:07,500
discover how a lot of these things were

2381
01:47:20,330 --> 01:47:17,209
I don't know if Heather all this stuff

2382
01:47:22,729 --> 01:47:20,340
is made it matters to be honest I want

2383
01:47:25,790 --> 01:47:22,739
to see what the function is

2384
01:47:28,550 --> 01:47:25,800
spoken like a true engineer this is data

2385
01:47:31,430 --> 01:47:28,560
collection we're doing data collection

2386
01:47:33,890 --> 01:47:31,440
you know it's not about well you know

2387
01:47:37,870 --> 01:47:33,900
it's it's kind of a philosophical how

2388
01:47:40,850 --> 01:47:37,880
they shift through rocks different ways

2389
01:47:43,450 --> 01:47:40,860
it's good to get it

2390
01:47:47,209 --> 01:47:43,460
it's a machine is proven I mean it's

2391
01:47:50,330 --> 01:47:47,219
replicable all you do take Giza

2392
01:47:54,410 --> 01:47:50,340
replicated on any scale you know the the

2393
01:47:55,970 --> 01:47:54,420
subtrans section and it will work so

2394
01:47:58,669 --> 01:47:55,980
anybody that I've always offered that to

2395
01:48:01,310 --> 01:47:58,679
anybody just follow what's there it will

2396
01:48:03,890 --> 01:48:01,320
work don't I don't I'm not giving you

2397
01:48:06,050 --> 01:48:03,900
any secret knowledge except it's all out

2398
01:48:08,270 --> 01:48:06,060
there there's I show the vowels and

2399
01:48:11,090 --> 01:48:08,280
stuff like well if if I don't ask the

2400
01:48:12,410 --> 01:48:11,100
philosophical questions you know there's

2401
01:48:14,030 --> 01:48:12,420
some some people in the audience are

2402
01:48:16,189 --> 01:48:14,040
like like Chris is back and he's not

2403
01:48:17,870 --> 01:48:16,199
asking like he's not asking some way out

2404
01:48:19,550 --> 01:48:17,880
of left field question of the engineer

2405
01:48:23,410 --> 01:48:19,560
who's just like I just build the cool

2406
01:48:28,390 --> 01:48:25,970
I want to test I want to test the

2407
01:48:31,189 --> 01:48:28,400
machine and see what these really smart

2408
01:48:34,209 --> 01:48:31,199
high-tech people what they were doing

2409
01:48:44,229 --> 01:48:34,219
why did they put a perfect

2410
01:48:48,070 --> 01:48:47,149
it's like it it's like the most

2411
01:48:51,770 --> 01:48:48,080
beautiful

2412
01:48:53,330 --> 01:48:51,780
tornado vorticity it's that clean it's

2413
01:48:55,010 --> 01:48:53,340
perfect

2414
01:48:58,729 --> 01:48:55,020
and it

2415
01:49:02,270 --> 01:48:58,739
is fibonacci's 3D Fibonacci spiral

2416
01:49:03,290 --> 01:49:02,280
Vortex I do recall that that that was

2417
01:49:05,810 --> 01:49:03,300
kind of one of the big things where it's

2418
01:49:07,729 --> 01:49:05,820
like the golden ratio if it's in you

2419
01:49:11,030 --> 01:49:07,739
know in in the chamber

2420
01:49:13,070 --> 01:49:11,040
yeah so I just want to I personally I

2421
01:49:14,570 --> 01:49:13,080
just I want to start putting ink through

2422
01:49:17,330 --> 01:49:14,580
it and see

2423
01:49:19,790 --> 01:49:17,340
what this vortices does because it in

2424
01:49:21,830 --> 01:49:19,800
nature it does seem to

2425
01:49:24,470 --> 01:49:21,840
um amplify things pretty aggressively

2426
01:49:28,790 --> 01:49:24,480
you know look at like the tornado which

2427
01:49:31,370 --> 01:49:28,800
was the at the they recorded 320 mile an

2428
01:49:34,129 --> 01:49:31,380
hour the highest wind speed ever going

2429
01:49:36,830 --> 01:49:34,139
into the tornado of uh a couple of them

2430
01:49:39,109 --> 01:49:36,840
down in Oklahoma how do that's higher

2431
01:49:41,689 --> 01:49:39,119
than Antarctic wind speeds that's higher

2432
01:49:45,410 --> 01:49:41,699
than any wind speeds ever recorded

2433
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:45,420
that's and they recorded it it's like so

2434
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:47,760
vortices are I want to see what vortices

2435
01:49:53,570 --> 01:49:49,920
do and what sort of amplifications they

2436
01:49:56,209 --> 01:49:53,580
do and apply it in real for real stuff

2437
01:49:58,010 --> 01:49:56,219
like maybe spinning a generator or

2438
01:50:01,609 --> 01:49:58,020
something something real

2439
01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:01,619
I I I'm not into like so much that you

2440
01:50:05,750 --> 01:50:03,360
know how they chip the rock out and

2441
01:50:08,270 --> 01:50:05,760
breathe and how's their life it's like I

2442
01:50:10,030 --> 01:50:08,280
don't really care I want I want to do

2443
01:50:14,270 --> 01:50:10,040
cool stuff

2444
01:50:17,629 --> 01:50:14,280
or to see to spin uh like a Pelton wheel

2445
01:50:19,550 --> 01:50:17,639
or something at extreme speeds and and

2446
01:50:21,830 --> 01:50:19,560
you know amplify it so I can put a

2447
01:50:24,470 --> 01:50:21,840
generator on the end and you know sell

2448
01:50:25,550 --> 01:50:24,480
back to the bread or this Powerhouse or

2449
01:50:27,890 --> 01:50:25,560
something

2450
01:50:30,350 --> 01:50:27,900
it's it's it's very high tech and I

2451
01:50:32,090 --> 01:50:30,360
don't that's what I want to see that's

2452
01:50:36,850 --> 01:50:32,100
that's my jam

2453
01:50:41,169 --> 01:50:36,860
now let's I I know we're getting it

2454
01:50:44,050 --> 01:50:41,179
okay step in here finally yeah

2455
01:50:47,149 --> 01:50:44,060
he did mostly inside

2456
01:50:49,790 --> 01:50:47,159
you know I I've had to sit and let's

2457
01:50:52,970 --> 01:50:49,800
look at this model and he's got a bottle

2458
01:50:55,970 --> 01:50:52,980
on the brain and don't worry um I've had

2459
01:50:59,030 --> 01:50:55,980
this fit and I've I've watched John's

2460
01:51:02,450 --> 01:50:59,040
research and and I

2461
01:51:04,669 --> 01:51:02,460
I know more about this this room than I

2462
01:51:09,950 --> 01:51:04,679
care to ever know about really

2463
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:09,960
uh and I've done a lot of uh watching of

2464
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:11,760
videos that people have been very

2465
01:51:16,550 --> 01:51:14,880
generous on providing this with

2466
01:51:21,709 --> 01:51:16,560
so that

2467
01:51:24,109 --> 01:51:21,719
uh the model can become more accurate

2468
01:51:25,970 --> 01:51:24,119
accurate because there isn't an awful

2469
01:51:28,189 --> 01:51:25,980
lot of pictures there isn't an awful lot

2470
01:51:29,510 --> 01:51:28,199
of information about this room that's

2471
01:51:32,810 --> 01:51:29,520
out there

2472
01:51:37,070 --> 01:51:32,820
that we were able to glean from

2473
01:51:40,970 --> 01:51:37,080
so as uh

2474
01:51:43,790 --> 01:51:40,980
GoPros have come in and people are able

2475
01:51:45,530 --> 01:51:43,800
to take pictures and videos of the the

2476
01:51:46,430 --> 01:51:45,540
Subterranean chamber that we can

2477
01:51:49,030 --> 01:51:46,440
actually

2478
01:51:51,530 --> 01:51:49,040
look at and

2479
01:51:56,270 --> 01:51:51,540
learn more about the sub training

2480
01:52:00,189 --> 01:51:56,280
chamber it's helped uh make

2481
01:52:05,570 --> 01:52:03,290
modifying and making the actual model

2482
01:52:10,189 --> 01:52:05,580
more

2483
01:52:11,870 --> 01:52:10,199
accurate than it has been from 1999 I

2484
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:11,880
mean the first found model was a little

2485
01:52:16,189 --> 01:52:13,440
bit rough

2486
01:52:20,570 --> 01:52:16,199
and I've I've been along for the journey

2487
01:52:24,770 --> 01:52:20,580
and it's been a very interesting Journey

2488
01:52:29,209 --> 01:52:24,780
but I've also learned a lot about this

2489
01:52:30,290 --> 01:52:29,219
room and about the shafts and everything

2490
01:52:34,070 --> 01:52:30,300
else

2491
01:52:38,530 --> 01:52:34,080
which uh that's that's just a challenge

2492
01:52:41,149 --> 01:52:38,540
work it's it's not mine but I I I enjoy

2493
01:52:44,990 --> 01:52:41,159
the the journey with him

2494
01:52:47,570 --> 01:52:45,000
but you've asked how a lot how can you

2495
01:52:51,770 --> 01:52:47,580
do this how can they do that the biggest

2496
01:52:54,770 --> 01:52:51,780
question is why why would they carve

2497
01:52:57,109 --> 01:52:54,780
this Channel at 26 degrees angle

2498
01:53:00,770 --> 01:52:57,119
perfectly down there that's good why

2499
01:53:04,669 --> 01:53:00,780
would they carve all this room at these

2500
01:53:07,450 --> 01:53:04,679
perfectly smooth uh within uh thousands

2501
01:53:11,090 --> 01:53:07,460
of an inch of being perfectly straight

2502
01:53:14,390 --> 01:53:11,100
to all the the questions were how does

2503
01:53:18,410 --> 01:53:14,400
it really matter it's why would they do

2504
01:53:20,629 --> 01:53:18,420
all of this work all of this I mean

2505
01:53:22,250 --> 01:53:20,639
anybody can I mean we look at our god

2506
01:53:26,149 --> 01:53:22,260
mode of Industry

2507
01:53:27,590 --> 01:53:26,159
our industry is not very accurate I mean

2508
01:53:29,689 --> 01:53:27,600
you look at what people build in the

2509
01:53:32,209 --> 01:53:29,699
United States it's it's people don't

2510
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:32,219
build things that are precisionly

2511
01:53:37,070 --> 01:53:34,080
accurate

2512
01:53:38,689 --> 01:53:37,080
and this it has these like computers or

2513
01:53:42,350 --> 01:53:38,699
stuff like that and they are Precision

2514
01:53:44,510 --> 01:53:42,360
active and you go why why build this

2515
01:53:47,450 --> 01:53:44,520
room so perfect

2516
01:53:49,490 --> 01:53:47,460
when it's it's it's going to be a

2517
01:53:52,609 --> 01:53:49,500
machine

2518
01:53:54,590 --> 01:53:52,619
the walls the shafts everything are I

2519
01:53:56,750 --> 01:53:54,600
mean Chris has done a lot of research on

2520
01:53:59,149 --> 01:53:56,760
it and he said it's amazing research and

2521
01:54:02,570 --> 01:53:59,159
information that's come back to us

2522
01:54:05,570 --> 01:54:02,580
and it's and he keeps saying God

2523
01:54:09,229 --> 01:54:05,580
everything is so I mean right angles and

2524
01:54:12,050 --> 01:54:09,239
this this myths are all you know

2525
01:54:15,590 --> 01:54:12,060
really close to being perfectly accurate

2526
01:54:17,570 --> 01:54:15,600
why because if I I my

2527
01:54:20,450 --> 01:54:17,580
probably the reason I hadn't asked that

2528
01:54:22,430 --> 01:54:20,460
as much is because if they didn't do it

2529
01:54:24,709 --> 01:54:22,440
to that level of precision or didn't do

2530
01:54:26,510 --> 01:54:24,719
it at those angles it wouldn't work and

2531
01:54:28,250 --> 01:54:26,520
then you wouldn't have the pulse

2532
01:54:30,709 --> 01:54:28,260
generation coming from

2533
01:54:32,510 --> 01:54:30,719
from that chamber towards the upper part

2534
01:54:35,870 --> 01:54:32,520
of the pyramid that would be the only

2535
01:54:37,609 --> 01:54:35,880
reason why they would have done it

2536
01:54:40,850 --> 01:54:37,619
because the calculations would have been

2537
01:54:42,350 --> 01:54:40,860
at least like it logic logically to me

2538
01:54:43,910 --> 01:54:42,360
it would just be based around the fact

2539
01:54:44,930 --> 01:54:43,920
that if they didn't do it that way it's

2540
01:54:47,090 --> 01:54:44,940
not going to work to the same effect

2541
01:54:49,010 --> 01:54:47,100
you're not going to get the same uh you

2542
01:54:50,149 --> 01:54:49,020
know like the same pressure you're not

2543
01:54:52,609 --> 01:54:50,159
going to get the same resonance you're

2544
01:54:54,770 --> 01:54:52,619
not going to get the same you know the

2545
01:54:55,510 --> 01:54:54,780
the same volume

2546
01:54:58,609 --> 01:54:55,520
um

2547
01:55:00,830 --> 01:54:58,619
now why they would need it at that

2548
01:55:02,990 --> 01:55:00,840
you know that's that's a very good

2549
01:55:06,109 --> 01:55:03,000
question that's that's that's well

2550
01:55:08,750 --> 01:55:06,119
beyond well beyond my expertise

2551
01:55:11,149 --> 01:55:08,760
it's well beyond my expertise and and

2552
01:55:14,510 --> 01:55:11,159
this room has literally driven me crazy

2553
01:55:17,330 --> 01:55:14,520
just thinking about all the little video

2554
01:55:19,129 --> 01:55:17,340
of secrecy Center in this room from the

2555
01:55:21,950 --> 01:55:19,139
little locks that are going down the

2556
01:55:24,709 --> 01:55:21,960
channels too that angle of this the

2557
01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:24,719
little carving out of that which I've

2558
01:55:31,189 --> 01:55:27,840
had to uh work with John as far as

2559
01:55:32,510 --> 01:55:31,199
replicating with a with the tools that

2560
01:55:35,870 --> 01:55:32,520
we have available

2561
01:55:39,950 --> 01:55:35,880
and you just go Jesus

2562
01:55:44,209 --> 01:55:39,960
why does this have to be here why what

2563
01:55:47,030 --> 01:55:44,219
was their wine set and you can make

2564
01:55:50,750 --> 01:55:47,040
things not perfectly accurate and they

2565
01:55:52,510 --> 01:55:50,760
do work but they work very hard at

2566
01:55:56,689 --> 01:55:52,520
making it

2567
01:55:58,609 --> 01:55:56,699
so accurate that it's it's just it's

2568
01:56:01,490 --> 01:55:58,619
stupefying to me

2569
01:56:03,709 --> 01:56:01,500
well then I would say at least excuse me

2570
01:56:06,890 --> 01:56:03,719
on that note because we are coming up to

2571
01:56:09,350 --> 01:56:06,900
the end of two hours I'm like we're

2572
01:56:10,430 --> 01:56:09,360
gonna do a part two sometime in the late

2573
01:56:12,169 --> 01:56:10,440
spring

2574
01:56:13,850 --> 01:56:12,179
where we get to interview you and then

2575
01:56:14,930 --> 01:56:13,860
we can actually talk about the why I

2576
01:56:17,629 --> 01:56:14,940
think that that would be a cool

2577
01:56:19,729 --> 01:56:17,639
follow-up yeah because it's it's like

2578
01:56:21,609 --> 01:56:19,739
it's like the lagina brothers it's a

2579
01:56:24,770 --> 01:56:21,619
cabinet

2580
01:56:28,669 --> 01:56:24,780
the lagina brothers are they're they got

2581
01:56:29,689 --> 01:56:28,679
a lot more resources but we're we're all

2582
01:56:31,850 --> 01:56:29,699
slow

2583
01:56:34,550 --> 01:56:31,860
that's all I know when we come back in

2584
01:56:36,410 --> 01:56:34,560
the spring for part two

2585
01:56:39,350 --> 01:56:36,420
we're gonna have this running it's it's

2586
01:56:41,330 --> 01:56:39,360
almost ready and I can't wait to see

2587
01:56:42,709 --> 01:56:41,340
that that's that's another reason why

2588
01:56:44,629 --> 01:56:42,719
because I actually want to be able to

2589
01:56:46,430 --> 01:56:44,639
see that I want to show people

2590
01:56:48,290 --> 01:56:46,440
bit working

2591
01:56:52,129 --> 01:56:48,300
and be able to show off the work because

2592
01:56:55,729 --> 01:56:52,139
I I know it's it's it's a it's a point

2593
01:56:57,290 --> 01:56:55,739
of Pride for any engineer to show their

2594
01:56:58,310 --> 01:56:57,300
machine functioning the way that it

2595
01:57:00,109 --> 01:56:58,320
should be and I know the fact you've

2596
01:57:01,910 --> 01:57:00,119
been working very hard on the in

2597
01:57:03,890 --> 01:57:01,920
conjunction and I think it'd be cool to

2598
01:57:06,709 --> 01:57:03,900
be able to actually see that firsthand

2599
01:57:09,229 --> 01:57:06,719
yeah it's on the dental floor I'm I'm

2600
01:57:10,910 --> 01:57:09,239
excited about seeing him run first see

2601
01:57:13,310 --> 01:57:10,920
that's the first time I've seen it

2602
01:57:15,169 --> 01:57:13,320
actually pulse with ink in it I've never

2603
01:57:18,229 --> 01:57:15,179
seen it and I want to see what it's

2604
01:57:19,910 --> 01:57:18,239
doing and I'm excited about it

2605
01:57:24,850 --> 01:57:19,920
I know

2606
01:57:29,570 --> 01:57:27,649
we'll have like actual different color

2607
01:57:33,649 --> 01:57:29,580
inks you'll be able to injected

2608
01:57:36,350 --> 01:57:33,659
different places and uh you know and

2609
01:57:38,750 --> 01:57:36,360
you'll see all the the three it's a

2610
01:57:41,450 --> 01:57:38,760
three-dimensional water flow too it's

2611
01:57:42,830 --> 01:57:41,460
absolutely brilliant

2612
01:57:46,370 --> 01:57:42,840
um

2613
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:46,380
so part two we'll have this running

2614
01:57:51,109 --> 01:57:48,320
Inc running

2615
01:57:53,689 --> 01:57:51,119
ink running and uh

2616
01:57:55,790 --> 01:57:53,699
and my head's back in the screen

2617
01:57:57,850 --> 01:57:55,800
and then then I can ask more why

2618
01:58:02,629 --> 01:57:57,860
questions

2619
01:58:05,450 --> 01:58:02,639
been out of the game for a couple years

2620
01:58:07,129 --> 01:58:05,460
guys I'm getting back into the mode so

2621
01:58:11,270 --> 01:58:07,139
it's it's not that I'm expecting you

2622
01:58:12,890 --> 01:58:11,280
know softball uh uh guests on I invited

2623
01:58:15,530 --> 01:58:12,900
my people that I consider my friends and

2624
01:58:18,229 --> 01:58:15,540
I care about back on because it's like I

2625
01:58:19,550 --> 01:58:18,239
know them well enough that I can't f up

2626
01:58:22,490 --> 01:58:19,560
too badly

2627
01:58:26,209 --> 01:58:24,169
I'm getting back into practice oh those

2628
01:58:30,250 --> 01:58:26,219
were friendly we're friendly and we're

2629
01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:32,390
that's that's that there goes my

2630
01:58:38,950 --> 01:58:34,080
monetization for this video

2631
01:58:41,510 --> 01:58:38,960
like I just threw up a little bit here

2632
01:58:42,850 --> 01:58:41,520
it's like I was saying like damn

2633
01:58:44,990 --> 01:58:42,860
cornwallers

2634
01:58:46,810 --> 01:58:45,000
I've got friends from Cornwall too it's

2635
01:58:50,629 --> 01:58:46,820
a great town

2636
01:58:52,310 --> 01:58:50,639
so ladies and gents uh it's midnight on

2637
01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:52,320
the east coast and well what what time

2638
01:58:58,370 --> 01:58:56,400
is it there 9pm 9pm on the west coast uh

2639
01:59:00,530 --> 01:58:58,380
this has been another episode of den of

2640
01:59:02,810 --> 01:59:00,540
lore I will have the new announcement

2641
01:59:03,950 --> 01:59:02,820
for actually I can tell you what

2642
01:59:06,410 --> 01:59:03,960
everyone

2643
01:59:09,229 --> 01:59:06,420
who do we

2644
01:59:11,750 --> 01:59:09,239
sorry I've been in like recovering and

2645
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:11,760
in bed uh the last week as you can tell

2646
01:59:17,810 --> 01:59:14,880
my voice has been gone so I'm glad it

2647
01:59:20,750 --> 01:59:17,820
has been up to the task tonight for the

2648
01:59:25,010 --> 01:59:22,609
Wednesday is the 10th Minecraft Steven

2649
01:59:26,589 --> 01:59:25,020
has the 10th here

2650
01:59:30,290 --> 01:59:26,599
oh actually

2651
01:59:32,149 --> 01:59:30,300
we've got uh Rocky stoochie on next week

2652
01:59:35,930 --> 01:59:32,159
and we're gonna be talking paranormal

2653
01:59:38,030 --> 01:59:35,940
and podcasting uh that is going to be a

2654
01:59:40,729 --> 01:59:38,040
good episode and I know that we also do

2655
01:59:43,189 --> 01:59:40,739
have the week after that

2656
01:59:44,470 --> 01:59:43,199
which that that will be the 16th is

2657
01:59:47,089 --> 01:59:44,480
Rocky

2658
01:59:48,169 --> 01:59:47,099
and uh the week after that is William

2659
01:59:52,129 --> 01:59:48,179
Pullen and we're going to be talking

2660
01:59:54,530 --> 01:59:52,139
UFOs and the current going-ons within uh

2661
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:54,540
the ufology community uh not for any

2662
01:59:57,410 --> 01:59:56,159
other reason then it's just bloody

2663
02:00:00,169 --> 01:59:57,420
entertaining

2664
02:00:02,089 --> 02:00:00,179
and he always has the best stories to

2665
02:00:06,370 --> 02:00:02,099
tell so I know William's been out in the

2666
02:00:08,810 --> 02:00:06,380
audience so so you know

2667
02:00:12,350 --> 02:00:08,820
exactly it's like this is the whole the

2668
02:00:15,050 --> 02:00:12,360
whole purpose of this show now is it's

2669
02:00:16,729 --> 02:00:15,060
not being so deep down the rabbit hole

2670
02:00:18,229 --> 02:00:16,739
it's just like it's just talking to

2671
02:00:20,689 --> 02:00:18,239
interesting people to learn some cool

2672
02:00:25,370 --> 02:00:20,699
[\h__\h] as the tagline is and to have a

2673
02:00:27,350 --> 02:00:25,380
good time and to be as uh you know just

2674
02:00:29,629 --> 02:00:27,360
supportive as a community as possible so

2675
02:00:34,250 --> 02:00:29,639
ladies and gents thank you very much for

2676
02:00:36,109 --> 02:00:34,260
joining us uh we will catch you all next

2677
02:00:40,370 --> 02:00:36,119
week get some rest